Japanese (?) Sword Query

David R · 8th May 2018, 10:33 AM

Not all WW2 blades had a hamon. NCO blades were plain tempered steel, and more than one signing smith made the same for officers Shin-Gunto. It's a very complicated subject. Patina on the nakago can be removed by over-cleaning. I would like to see pictures of the mounts as that can be a clue. I would take this over to one of the specialist pages like Nihonto Message board or warrelics.eu where there is a bigger pool of knowledge.

mariusgmioc · 8th May 2018, 05:15 PM

Sorry Alan for the late reply but I am currently travelling and don't get online too often.

First, even for a prliminary assesment of the blade, much better photos will be needed. They should detail the tang, the tip and the mid-section of the blade. Also some dimmensions would be needed.

Second, the best source of information would be the "Nihonto Message Board" forum.

If your friend doesn't want to join that forum, he can send me the info and I will gladly ask for him... but that will have to wait at least another week.

Regards,

Marius

PS: To me the signature looks rather well executed that is very uncharacteristic for Chinese fakes.

PPS: And it also appears to have some hamon...

Ian · 8th May 2018, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R

Not all WW2 blades had a hamon. NCO blades were plain tempered steel, and more than one signing smith made the same for officers Shin-Gunto. It's a very complicated subject. ...

Thanks Dave. Indeed, a complicated subject.

Ian.

A. G. Maisey · 8th May 2018, 11:10 PM

Thank you for your responses gentlemen.

It appears that there is no hamon.

My mate has come up with the same list that David has shown us, and has formed the opinion that he has something that is probably the same as #8 on that list.

8th May 2018, 10:33 AM	#1
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	Not all WW2 blades had a hamon. NCO blades were plain tempered steel, and more than one signing smith made the same for officers Shin-Gunto. It's a very complicated subject. Patina on the nakago can be removed by over-cleaning. I would like to see pictures of the mounts as that can be a clue. I would take this over to one of the specialist pages like Nihonto Message board or warrelics.eu where there is a bigger pool of knowledge. Attached Images

8th May 2018, 05:15 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	Late reply Sorry Alan for the late reply but I am currently travelling and don't get online too often. First, even for a prliminary assesment of the blade, much better photos will be needed. They should detail the tang, the tip and the mid-section of the blade. Also some dimmensions would be needed. Second, the best source of information would be the "Nihonto Message Board" forum. If your friend doesn't want to join that forum, he can send me the info and I will gladly ask for him... but that will have to wait at least another week. Regards, Marius PS: To me the signature looks rather well executed that is very uncharacteristic for Chinese fakes. PPS: And it also appears to have some hamon... Last edited by mariusgmioc; 8th May 2018 at 06:11 PM.

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8th May 2018, 11:10 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,013	Thank you for your responses gentlemen. It appears that there is no hamon. My mate has come up with the same list that David has shown us, and has formed the opinion that he has something that is probably the same as #8 on that list.