Unusual kris for id please

Rick · 29th April 2018, 01:59 PM

Dimensions please??

chiefheadknocker · 29th April 2018, 02:01 PM

hi there the blade alone is 36cm and overall length in scabbard 45cm
thanks

Paul de Souza · 29th April 2018, 02:42 PM

Think it is a Peninsular piece from the North judging from the sampir - the sheath cross-piece. Blade is typical bugis inspired. Angle of the hilt is correct for me for when you hold the hilt like you would a pistol grip, the blade would be flat and lean inwards to the opponent's body for the stab between ribs and inward towards vital organs.

David · 29th April 2018, 04:28 PM

Not sure why you would consider 14 inches as possibly being sword length, but yes, i would certainly classify this as a dagger.
I tend to agree with Paul's description and if you hold this properly that hilt seems to be in a fairly logical position to me.
What no one has said yet is that this appears to be a rather nice keris of this type with a beautiful, well made blade and nice fittings. It does look like the sheath is missing it buntet at the end of the stem, but otherwise it looks complete and in good condition. Though we don't talk money on this forum i still must remark that you seem to have gotten quite a steal on this one. Nice catch!

chiefheadknocker · 29th April 2018, 04:40 PM

Thanks for your reply and information , I thought this would be too short for a sword but then I thought this is too big for a dagger , but then I'm a novice in this area , thanks for putting light on it ,
should i clean the blade in any way or is it best left alone ?
thanks

David · 29th April 2018, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefheadknocker

Thanks for your reply and information , I thought this would be too short for a sword but then I thought this is too big for a dagger , but then I'm a novice in this area , thanks for putting light on it ,
should i clean the blade in any way or is it best left alone ?
thanks

Yeah, 14 inches (36cm) is a pretty average length for a keris dagger.
Your photos aren't great, but i don't see any active rust on the blade. It does seem a bit dark for a Peninsula blade, most people don't tend to give warangan treatment to them, but perhaps the previous collector liked it that way. I wouldn't necessarily remove the stain though. If it were mine i would probably hit it with some WD40 and brush it down well with and old toothbrush. Then i would oil it with a fragrant keris oil. I personally prefer a mix of mineral oil with sandalwood and kenanga oil.

A. G. Maisey · 30th April 2018, 01:33 AM

This is a very nice keris, you've done well.

29th April 2018, 04:40 PM	#5
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	Thanks for your reply and information , I thought this would be too short for a sword but then I thought this is too big for a dagger , but then I'm a novice in this area , thanks for putting light on it , should i clean the blade in any way or is it best left alone ? thanks Last edited by chiefheadknocker; 29th April 2018 at 06:10 PM.

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29th April 2018, 01:59 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Dimensions please??

29th April 2018, 02:01 PM	#2
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	hi there the blade alone is 36cm and overall length in scabbard 45cm thanks

29th April 2018, 02:42 PM	#3
Paul de Souza Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 66	Think it is a Peninsular piece from the North judging from the sampir - the sheath cross-piece. Blade is typical bugis inspired. Angle of the hilt is correct for me for when you hold the hilt like you would a pistol grip, the blade would be flat and lean inwards to the opponent's body for the stab between ribs and inward towards vital organs.

29th April 2018, 04:28 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Not sure why you would consider 14 inches as possibly being sword length, but yes, i would certainly classify this as a dagger. I tend to agree with Paul's description and if you hold this properly that hilt seems to be in a fairly logical position to me. What no one has said yet is that this appears to be a rather nice keris of this type with a beautiful, well made blade and nice fittings. It does look like the sheath is missing it buntet at the end of the stem, but otherwise it looks complete and in good condition. Though we don't talk money on this forum i still must remark that you seem to have gotten quite a steal on this one. Nice catch!

30th April 2018, 01:33 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,012	This is a very nice keris, you've done well.