Swords a la Portuguese

fernando · 5th September 2017, 06:48 PM

More on the Colonial sword (Mbele a Lulendo) being continued HERE

midelburgo · 19th September 2017, 03:10 AM

We discussed on this subject at a Spanish site in 2012 (in Spanish sorry).

http://www.esgrimaantigua.com/forum/...lit=portuguesa

Regards.

fernando · 19th September 2017, 01:38 PM

Interesting link, Javier.
In fact i also have the monography by Armando Canelhas, which i confess was a little forgotten in my readings.

midelburgo · 20th September 2017, 04:18 PM

Fascinating story that of the Mbele a Lulendo. Actually I got offered one of those in 2006 and I really took it for a XVIth century Portuguese sword. I did not buy it however. I must have pictures somewhere...And a loose hilt appeared at ebay in 2012:

http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...7-What-is-this

I now think that the colonial Spanish swords with the lobated dish-hilt and brass applications at knucklebow and cross are from Philippines.

PS. I found the pictures from the sword I was offered in 2006 and it is the same "1697" sword discussed above.

fernando · 15th August 2018, 01:42 PM

Following "Swords a la Portuguese part two" may be found HERE

Victrix · 15th August 2018, 10:45 PM

Just to inform those interested in the subject that there’s an Osprey Men-at-Arms publication by David Nicolle entitled The Portuguese in the Age of Discovery c.1340-1665. It’s available on the internet.

fernando · 15th August 2018, 11:05 PM

Thanks for the hint, Victrix

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Just ordered a copy.
Print on demand, they say. It will probably take ages to be delivered

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In fact i knew about this publication; but i kept wondering how (in) accurate it may be

.

20th September 2017, 04:18 PM	#4
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 257	Fascinating story that of the Mbele a Lulendo. Actually I got offered one of those in 2006 and I really took it for a XVIth century Portuguese sword. I did not buy it however. I must have pictures somewhere...And a loose hilt appeared at ebay in 2012: http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...7-What-is-this I now think that the colonial Spanish swords with the lobated dish-hilt and brass applications at knucklebow and cross are from Philippines. PS. I found the pictures from the sword I was offered in 2006 and it is the same "1697" sword discussed above. Last edited by midelburgo; 20th September 2017 at 06:28 PM.

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5th September 2017, 06:48 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	More on the Colonial sword (Mbele a Lulendo) being continued HERE

19th September 2017, 03:10 AM	#2
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 257	We discussed on this subject at a Spanish site in 2012 (in Spanish sorry). http://www.esgrimaantigua.com/forum/...lit=portuguesa Regards.

19th September 2017, 01:38 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Interesting link, Javier. In fact i also have the monography by Armando Canelhas, which i confess was a little forgotten in my readings.

15th August 2018, 01:42 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Following "Swords a la Portuguese part two" may be found HERE

15th August 2018, 10:45 PM	#6
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 713	Just to inform those interested in the subject that there’s an Osprey Men-at-Arms publication by David Nicolle entitled The Portuguese in the Age of Discovery c.1340-1665. It’s available on the internet.

15th August 2018, 11:05 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks for the hint, Victrix . Just ordered a copy. Print on demand, they say. It will probably take ages to be delivered . In fact i knew about this publication; but i kept wondering how (in) accurate it may be .