An Unsusal Curved Flyssa sword

[mariusgmioc]

Hello Charles,

As far as I know, the Flyssa is characterised by the shape of its blade and not by the hilt. So I do not consider the saber in your example to be a Flyssa.

Regards,

Marius

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Hello Charles,

As far as I know, the Flyssa is characterised by the shape of its blade and not by the hilt.

Maybe not?

[Kubur]

Hi All,

I disagree with Marius.
It's a flyssa, with a flyssa hilt, flyssa scabbard and flyssa blade (engravings).
Yes the curvature is different but the length is a flyssa length.
It was just inspired by the so-called weeding swords, the real nimcha.
Plus you don't have one type of flyssa blade but at least two, the long and narrow and the large yatagan type...

Best,
Kubur

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi All,

I disagree with Marius.
It's a flyssa, with a flyssa hilt, flyssa scabbard and flyssa blade (engravings).
Yes the curvature is different but the length is a flyssa length.
It was just inspired by the so-called weeding swords, the real nimcha.
Plus you don't have one type of flyssa blade but at least two, the long and narrow and the large yatagan type...

Best,
Kubur

A few flyssa blade types.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by estcrh

A few flyssa blade types.

Waow its what they call a team work!

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by estcrh

A few flyssa blade types.

Exactly my point!


Otherwise, we may end up calling all these "Tulwar".

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Exactly my point!


Otherwise, we may end up calling all these "Tulwar".

Marius, you know that swords / daggers from certain cultures are more categorized than others. Indian swords are very categorized with many different types being given specific names. Swords / daggers from other cultures are treated differently....take yatagan for example....many different blade types, hilt types, scabbard types and yet we have no problem categorizing them as yatagan. These things tend to be on a case by case basis.

So is this sword a nimcha or a flyssa???

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Marius, you know that swords / daggers from certain cultures are more categorized than others. Indian swords are very categorized with many different types being given specific names. Swords / daggers from other cultures are treated differently....take yatagan for example....many different blade types, hilt types, scabbard types and yet we have no problem categorizing them as yatagan. These things tend to be on a case by case basis.

So is this sword a nimcha or a flyssa???

Of course you are right and I know myself that.

However, I am of the oppinion we must stirve to improve the current naming system by making it clearer, more consitent and more accurate.

Following this idea, I believe a sword is primarilly defined by its blade.

So, your example is a "Flyssa with a Nimcha hilt." Now, even without seeing the photo, you could be able to get a pretty good idea of what it is.

Why not a "Nimcha witha Flyssa blade?" Because, as I mentioned earlier, the blade is the most important part of a sword, and therefore, the sword should be named after the blade.

However, this remains my oppinion.

PS: You found a brilliant example!

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Following this idea, I believe a sword is primarilly defined by its blade.
and therefore, the sword should be named after the blade.
However, this remains my oppinion.

Well Marius
...a lot of members are thinking like you.
However IMHO I think the total opposite
The people who did these swords didn't care about the style of the swords
they cared about effectiveness and beauty, good blade to fight and to show off
Most of the Arab, Turkish, African and Indian swords have imported blades
Europeans and Persians
What do you think about the kaskara, tabouka, Arabian shamshirs, shashka, firangi, kattara?
Plus you have yatagans without the typical yatagan curved blades... where do you put them?