keris bugis again

[La Pagaru]

Originally Posted by Green

La paragu,

I have that book you mentioned and I love the kerises in it. Very2 beautiful , all of them!

Sorry, I do not understand what you wrote . Can you rewrite in Bahasa Indonesia. I can read Bahasa Indonesia .

DEar green
first of all I would like to apologize if I am unfavorable ingrish language. you might think that a dagger which I uploaded is a new kris !! but I'll bet my capacity as a researcher and culture lovers, especially Bugis Bugis heritage. You should ask my name among friends in Indonesia singapore and malaysia! At the book senjata pusaka bugis you can find my name, my real name is Andi Pratama Aries! in close BTime I will release my book titled senjata pusaka bugis Dan serumpunnyar. In among collectors Bugis kaminpunya a principle, namely, the old, intact, beautiful prestige became a reference for collecting an inheritance for the collection! I've uploaded some new keris in different forums please see and distinguish! Thank you in advance

[La Pagaru]

This one a new Keris bugis

[La Pagaru]

This one after prosesing

[La Pagaru]

Dear all

This time I post a keris without camera effects, hopefully be discussed together ,. keris Bugis sepokal

[La Pagaru]

Dear all
slightly deviated from the discussion, we Bugis have expertise in making this the dagger with beautiful and hard PAMOR, my upload so you can to see a different

[A. G. Maisey]

I thank all concerned for your repeated invitations to join this discussion, however, the posts that have already been made, and especially the photographs of keris, make it very clear to me that I lack the current knowledge necessary to participate usefully.

Edit:- Reference to:-

Pamor dan Landasan Spiritual
Senjata Pusaka
Bugis
Ahmad Ibbe, Andi Irwan Zulfikar, Dray Vibranto Senewe
ISBN 978-979-22-7729-6

may assist in clarification

[kai]

Hello Andi,

Nice fittings of the keris shown in #39!

With what metal have the gaps in this blade been closed?

Regards,
Kai

[Rick]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Andi,

Nice fittings of the keris shown in #39!

With what metal have the gaps in this blade been closed?

Regards,
Kai

The blade looks like it has cold shuts on both sides almost the entire length.

[kai]

P.S.: It would be really great, if you were to provide a translation of the manuscript you posted, Andi - I'm sure Donny will be glad to help. Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Kai

[satsujinken]

Originally Posted by kai

P.S.: It would be really great, if you were to provide a translation of the manuscript you posted, Andi - I'm sure Donny will be glad to help. Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Kai

the problem is the manuscript was written using language I don't understand

[kai]

Hello Donny,

Sure, we first need Andi to translate it into BI; then we can try BI into English...

Regards,
Kai

[Green]

La pagaru

the peril of communication is second or thrid language!
At no time did i mention anything about the age of the keris!
My point is, I find the keris you posted good looking and I wonder why Mr Alan Maisey reserves his comment and I would like to learn what he thinks about the kerises!

(Bahaya kesilapan faham berkomunikasi dalam bahasa kedua atau ketiga!
Saya tidak pernah berkata tentang usia keris yang di tunjukkan!
Maksud saya, saya nampak keris2 yang di paparkan itu cantik, tetapi Alan Maisey tidak mahu komen, dan saya ingin tahu mengapa? supaya saya boleh pelajari daripada dia kerana dia seorang yang pakar tentang keris dan perkerisan.)

[David]

Originally Posted by Green

La pagaru

the peril of communication is second or thrid language!
At no time did i mention anything about the age of the keris!
My point is, I find the keris you posted good looking and I wonder why Mr Alan Maisey reserves his comment and I would like to learn what he thinks about the kerises!

(Bahaya kesilapan faham berkomunikasi dalam bahasa kedua atau ketiga!
Saya tidak pernah berkata tentang usia keris yang di tunjukkan!
Maksud saya, saya nampak keris2 yang di paparkan itu cantik, tetapi Alan Maisey tidak mahu komen, dan saya ingin tahu mengapa? supaya saya boleh pelajari daripada dia kerana dia seorang yang pakar tentang keris dan perkerisan.)

I don't wish to speak for Alan Maisey and i am sure he will come along at some point and speak to your concern here Green. However, Alan has made it clear countless times on this forum that both his expertise and interest lie in keris from Jawa, Bali and Madura. He is generally reluctant to comment on keris that are made outside of this area.

[Green]

Divid;

Alan has made plenty of comments in other posts on non jawa keris and other ethonagraphic weapons which I greatly benefit from!

And in this particular thread , if my understanding of english language is correct, his nuanced statement seem to indicate that he may have interesting opinion on these kerises (to put it nicely) and this is what pique my interest as my current interest happens to be bugis keris (which he amply knows)... and i want to learn something from him!

the beauty of this forum is that people are very open and free with their opinions (which i find very refreshing) unlike many other keris forums elsewhere.
I have learnt many things from honest comments from my posts and if at all i value criticism much more than praises as i learn more from criticisms than the later.