Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Mahout's knives

sirupate · 10th November 2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

the kamis of Surya Benai, Nepal call their sickle a 'hasiya' terminal H optional.
they also come in fancy.

The HI kami, so probably a dialect/regional variance, like khuda is to khunda, the fancy ones were used as a presentation pieces, there is one in the GM in Winchester.

RobT · 11th November 2016, 03:34 AM

Kronckew,

"the kamis of Surya Benai, Nepal call their sickle a 'hasiya' terminal H optional."

That gives full confirmation that the movie title Hasiya means sickle (also one of the online blurbs for the movie said that hasiya means sickle in English). The heroine of the movie uses a hasiya in some of the combat sequences. It's not too far a stretch to see how another group combined aansi & hasiya to get hansiya (especially if the "h" is sort of silent).

Sincerely,
Till

Sajen · 25th January 2017, 08:21 PM

Here is such a knife which was listed by ebay.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 25th January 2017, 09:18 PM

On the subject of banned Martial Arts in Sri Lanka ... With the advent of colonialism over the entirety of the island in 1815, Angampora fell into disuse and was very nearly lost as a part of the country's heritage. The British administration prohibited its practice due to the dangers posed by a civilian populace versed in a martial art, burning down any angan madu (practice huts devoted to the martial art) found: flouting of the law was punished by a gunshot to the knee, effectively crippling practitioners; Angampora nevertheless survived within a few families, allowing it to emerge into mainstream Sri Lankan culture post-independence. Something similar happened in India.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 29th September 2017, 05:24 PM

Whilst the earlier posts seem to show a traditional style of knife perhaps used by the Mahout etc ...The later form which are sickle like are originally south Indian and used also in Sri Lanka . They are Veecharuval.

See THE Veecharuval on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...&page=11&pp=30 at post#304... This weapon may have spread from Southern India moreover there it is banned in many areas since it has been used in frequent attacks and murders... It is simply a machete often with a curved hook like tip section...The use of agricultural tools as war or fighting weapons is not unusual and this is an example of such an item. For interest I show the South Indian version in the blacksmiths shop though there is, perhaps, little difference.

kronckew · 29th September 2017, 07:00 PM

aha! the traditional tool/weapon of the local natives in my village. the english have traditionally taken their bills to war, especially the long hafted pole versions, against the perfidious french rebels at potiers, crecy and agincort, who would deny our noble kings their rights in the english continental lands. they are still readily available from merchants throughout the land at reasonable costs.

silberschatzimsee · 29th September 2017, 08:23 PM

This is what is used today. I bought it in 2004 in the local market of Galle when i remember it correct.

Kronkew your knifeform would be used to crack coconuts today. I dont know the exact singhalese name for it.

11th November 2016, 03:34 AM	#2
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 548	That Explains the Movie Kronckew, "the kamis of Surya Benai, Nepal call their sickle a 'hasiya' terminal H optional." That gives full confirmation that the movie title Hasiya means sickle (also one of the online blurbs for the movie said that hasiya means sickle in English). The heroine of the movie uses a hasiya in some of the combat sequences. It's not too far a stretch to see how another group combined aansi & hasiya to get hansiya (especially if the "h" is sort of silent). Sincerely, Till

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	aha! the traditional tool/weapon of the local natives in my village. the english have traditionally taken their bills to war, especially the long hafted pole versions, against the perfidious french rebels at potiers, crecy and agincort, who would deny our noble kings their rights in the english continental lands. they are still readily available from merchants throughout the land at reasonable costs. Attached Images

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25th January 2017, 08:21 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,207	Here is such a knife which was listed by ebay. Attached Images

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Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	On the subject of banned Martial Arts in Sri Lanka ... With the advent of colonialism over the entirety of the island in 1815, Angampora fell into disuse and was very nearly lost as a part of the country's heritage. The British administration prohibited its practice due to the dangers posed by a civilian populace versed in a martial art, burning down any angan madu (practice huts devoted to the martial art) found: flouting of the law was punished by a gunshot to the knee, effectively crippling practitioners; Angampora nevertheless survived within a few families, allowing it to emerge into mainstream Sri Lankan culture post-independence. Something similar happened in India.

29th September 2017, 05:24 PM	#5
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Whilst the earlier posts seem to show a traditional style of knife perhaps used by the Mahout etc ...The later form which are sickle like are originally south Indian and used also in Sri Lanka . They are Veecharuval. See THE Veecharuval on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...&page=11&pp=30 at post#304... This weapon may have spread from Southern India moreover there it is banned in many areas since it has been used in frequent attacks and murders... It is simply a machete often with a curved hook like tip section...The use of agricultural tools as war or fighting weapons is not unusual and this is an example of such an item. For interest I show the South Indian version in the blacksmiths shop though there is, perhaps, little difference.

29th September 2017, 08:23 PM	#7
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	This is what is used today. I bought it in 2004 in the local market of Galle when i remember it correct. Kronkew your knifeform would be used to crack coconuts today. I dont know the exact singhalese name for it.