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Old 14th June 2016, 03:20 AM   #1
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HI
I'm from China.
There is no doubt that this is a Chinese DAO
From the point of view is "1754 DAO text"
Is the Qing Dynasty in China, 1814 OR 1874
I think he is an ordinary sergeant with a DAO

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Old 14th June 2016, 02:25 PM   #2
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There is no doubt that this is a Chinese DAO
From the point of view is "1754 DAO text"
Is the Qing Dynasty in China, 1814 OR 1874
I think he is an ordinary sergeant with a DAO

Hello Benny.lee can you elaborate please.

Are you able to read the mark at the tang? What tell us this inscription? What you can tell us about this sword?

Agree, a very interesting discussion.

Roland, are you going to restore the handle?

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Old 14th June 2016, 03:55 PM   #3
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Hello Benny.lee can you elaborate please.

Are you able to read the mark at the tang? What tell us this inscription? What you can tell us about this sword?

Agree, a very interesting discussion.

Roland, are you going to restore the handle?

Regards,
Detlef
Thank you for sure.
The inscription "1754" is a calendar, a 60 year cycle
On Chinese sword metal forging, the ancient no high temperature furnace, with charcoal as fuel, mixed with iron sand, after many times forging hammers
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Old 14th June 2016, 05:42 PM   #4
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Thank you benny.lee!
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Old 14th June 2016, 07:02 PM   #5
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Thank you for sure.
The inscription "1754" is a calendar, a 60 year cycle
On Chinese sword metal forging, the ancient no high temperature furnace, with charcoal as fuel, mixed with iron sand, after many times forging hammers
Posted pictures of the Ming Dynasty sword
This looks very similar to a Japanese naginata.
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Old 14th June 2016, 07:46 PM   #6
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Default acier fondu

The phrase "acier fondu" began appearing on European pistols (mostly French andBelgian) in the nineteen century and is usually taken to mean "cast steel", suggesting an improved process for making gun steel.
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Old 15th June 2016, 02:44 AM   #7
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This looks very similar to a Japanese naginata.
Yes in 16 Century, trade between China and Japan was frequent
But their use is different.
This DAO is used to Chinese equipment Navy, long rod, which can effectively attack the enemy in the boat
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Old 15th June 2016, 09:46 AM   #8
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Thank you for sure.
The inscription "1754" is a calendar, a 60 year cycle
On Chinese sword metal forging, the ancient no high temperature furnace, with charcoal as fuel, mixed with iron sand, after many times forging hammers
Posted pictures of the Ming Dynasty sword
Hi Benny.lee,

thank you for the translation and the picture.

There is a second stamp on the hilt, which looks like a "B". Do you know the meaning of this stamp? A kind of military quality stamp like the Seki-stamp in Japan?


Hi Detlef,

yes I will restore the hilt, James is going to do the job. I will also search for ancient Dao parts.


Roland
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Old 15th June 2016, 01:27 PM   #9
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Hi Benny.lee,

thank you for the translation and the picture.

There is a second stamp on the hilt, which looks like a "B". Do you know the meaning of this stamp? A kind of military quality stamp like the Seki-stamp in Japan?


Hi Detlef,

yes I will restore the hilt, James is going to do the job. I will also search for ancient Dao parts.


Roland



I think that's a flaw
Or a label, such as a workshop.
It is not a Chinese character
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Thank you for sure.
The inscription "1754" is a calendar, a 60 year cycle
On Chinese sword metal forging, the ancient no high temperature furnace, with charcoal as fuel, mixed with iron sand, after many times forging hammers
Posted pictures of the Ming Dynasty sword
Hello Benny Lee,

Looking at the photos of the Ming dynasty sword, I became convinced this is a Japan made Naginata, as one can clearly identfy the typically Japanese hada and hamon.

Please bear it in mind that at those times, weapons were one of the very few items Japan had available for trade and they traded them heavily with China in excange of various other items (silk, silver, gold, ivory, etc.).
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Hello Benny Lee,

Looking at the photos of the Ming dynasty sword, I became convinced this is a Japan made Naginata, as one can clearly identfy the typically Japanese hada and hamon.

Please bear it in mind that at those times, weapons were one of the very few items Japan had available for trade and they traded them heavily with China in excange of various other items (silk, silver, gold, ivory, etc.).
I have to agree here, it looks like a naginata, I would like to see if there are any other supposedly Chinese blades like this one, and how was it mounted in China.
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