Tilang Kamerau

asomotif · 23rd October 2015, 06:01 PM

Are we also considering the fact that the sea dayak speak Iban ?

So the Iban word might have been translated into Malay.

Someone with Iban knowledge would probably have a different view on this name.

Appologies in case I am creating more confusion.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd October 2015, 09:13 PM

No, not more confusion, but a timely reminder.

All these groups in Borneo speak dialects of Malay. All of us who have commented have been commenting in terms of Malay, not commenting in terms of the dialect used in the relevant area.

When the question was initially raised dialect was mentioned, and maybe this is where the difficulty is.

thomas hauschild · 13th November 2023, 05:13 PM

Hi
I like to open this post again. I bought a the following piece as a jimpul but I was told by a well known collector that this is an tilang kamerau. First google search gives this post. Maybe interesting. Unlikely with some damages. Bad weather in germany, to bad to make some daylight-pictures

Best Thomas

kai · 18th November 2023, 11:02 PM

Hello Thomas!

Quote:

I bought a the following piece as a jimpul but I was told by a well known collector that this is an tilang kamerau.

A really good piece - congrats!

IMHO this sword can well be considered as jimpul (or as an intermediate/link): This hilt style is typical for jimpul and also the blade ticks quite a lot of boxes even if the tip isn't as steep as in most jimpul blades.

I hope more of the Borneo specialists will comment!

Regards,
Kai

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23rd October 2015, 06:01 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Are we also considering the fact that the sea dayak speak Iban ? So the Iban word might have been translated into Malay. Someone with Iban knowledge would probably have a different view on this name. Appologies in case I am creating more confusion.

23rd October 2015, 09:13 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	No, not more confusion, but a timely reminder. All these groups in Borneo speak dialects of Malay. All of us who have commented have been commenting in terms of Malay, not commenting in terms of the dialect used in the relevant area. When the question was initially raised dialect was mentioned, and maybe this is where the difficulty is.