Kindjals, Quamas and Quaddaras

[Henk]

Miguel, pictures give the knowledgeable members the information they need to give you the answers.

[Rick]

I think this ground has been covered before here .

A search of the site using those very key words just might unveil what you are looking for .

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Rick

I think this ground has been covered before here .

A search of the site using those very key words just might unveil what you are looking for .

Hi Rick,
I have searched other sites using the key words and am still confused, From my search so far, internet and ref books, I am led to believe that Kindjal is the term used in Russia whilst everywhere else uses the term Qama or a derivative of this term. There appears to be some confusion regarding the Qaddara which some sources say that it is the term used for a large kindjal or qama and others say that it is the name given to a curved kindjal. None of the sources provide info on difference in blade types and the characteristics that determine the country of origin except for Georgia and some Russian types. Thanks for pointing out this site, I should have known this. I look forward to further searching and hope that it helps clear up some if not all of my confusion.
Miguel

[Emanuel]

Hi Miguel,

The search function on this site is a treasure.

Here are two discussions to get you started

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2956
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2528

Emanuel

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Emanuel

Hi Miguel,

The search function on this site is a treasure.

Here are two discussions to get you started

http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2956
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2528

Emanuel

Hi Emanuel,
Thank you very much for those links, most helpful. I must apologise for not replying sooner, I have no excuse I just forgot please accept my apology. Miguel

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Hi Emanuel,
Thank you very much for those links, most helpful. I must apologise for not replying sooner, I have no excuse I just forgot please accept my apology. Miguel

Hi Emanuel,
Its me again, I forgot to mention that the opinion I formed is that they are all Kindjals except in Georgia where they are Qamas, an over simplification I know but it does for me. Miguel

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Henk

Miguel, pictures give the knowledgeable members the information they need to give you the answers.

Hi Henk,

Quite right but I have no photos as Yet due to the items being amongst other items in one of my storage boxes that I will be emptying to catalogue and research. When I doe this I will share photos of the items. I have had my weapon collection in storage for the last 15 to 20 years and have at last got some time to resea```````````````````````````````ch and catalogue them. I thought that if I asked the question in advance it would help to facilitate my research.
Miguel

[Miguel]

Originally Posted by Henk

Miguel, pictures give the knowledgeable members the information they need to give you the answers.

Hi Henk,
Here are some photos of the Kindjals, Qamas And Quaddara? that I finally rooted out of my storage boxes. They all in need various amounts of TLC but I hope that there is shown enough detail for the more knowledgeable members of the Forum to be able to Comment as to where they originate from in the Caucasus and the meanings of the blade stamps and inscriptions on some of them.

No 1:- Brass cast hilt Scalloped double edged blade .
Overall Length 18.5 ins, blade length 13.5 ins x 1.25 ins wide.

No 2:- Horn hilt with large double edged blade having a long almost round point.
Overall length 24.5 ins, blade length 19 ins x 1.75 ins wide.

No 3:- Horn hilt with double edged blade having Islamic writing. No scabbard.
Overall length 20.5 ins, blade length 16 ins x 1.5 ins wide.

No 4:- Horn hilt with double edged blade having a two moons and three stars deep blade stamp on one side. No scabbard.
Overall length 20.75 ins, blade length 15.25 ins x 1.5 ins wide

No 5:- Horn hilt with brass rivets and having a slightly curved single edged blade with three fullers and a n 8 lobed blade stamp, no scabbard.
Overall length 29 ins, blade length 23 ins x 1.5 ins wide.

No 6:- Silver hilt and scabbard profusely decorated, back of scabbard near throat having a Russian 84 silver assay mark fro Odessa or Don With Female head facing right signifying 1908 to 1926 also silversmiths stamp of a backward facing LN. Double edged blade having llers.
Overall length 18 ins, blade length 13.5 ins x 1.25 ins wide.

No 7:- Silver and horn hilt and leather covered wooden scabbard with silver locket and chape having worn decoration. Cartouche with what could be Arabic script on back of locket. Double edged blade with single fuller and moon and two stars deep blade stamp.
Overall length 21.25 ins, blade length 16.75 ins x 1.5 ins wide.

Your comments would be appreciated.
Thanking you in advance.
Miguel

[Miguel]

Nos 5 and 6

[Miguel]

No 7