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Old 14th May 2015, 09:15 PM   #1
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You bet Dana!
Just plowed through Boccia and Wallace, and it seems though no exact match, the triplicate nature of this grouping using 'twigs' flanking a central device was typical in many North Italian instances around end of 15th c. through the 16th. I would personally think that Styria would be a most likely source for this blade.

These types of stout sabres, which actually are most correctly termed 'dusagge' are of forms very much in accord with Italian 'storta' of these times (also short sabres). These were used by many mercenary forces often supplied through Styria as well as Passau and other regional centers, thus the diffusion of these forms, accompanied by the markings which signified quality etc to these groups.
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You bet Dana!
Just plowed through Boccia and Wallace, and it seems though no exact match, the triplicate nature of this grouping using 'twigs' flanking a central device was typical in many North Italian instances around end of 15th c. through the 16th. I would personally think that Styria would be a most likely source for this blade.

These types of stout sabres, which actually are most correctly termed 'dusagge' are of forms very much in accord with Italian 'storta' of these times (also short sabres). These were used by many mercenary forces often supplied through Styria as well as Passau and other regional centers, thus the diffusion of these forms, accompanied by the markings which signified quality etc to these groups.
Can you believe that some people think studying ends after they graduate? Thanks again Jim!
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Old 15th May 2015, 05:30 PM   #3
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Dana,

is there a story that goes with this sword, I mean I'm sure there is but is it known or do you know were it came from or were it was found?

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Dana,

is there a story that goes with this sword, I mean I'm sure there is but is it known or do you know were it came from or were it was found?

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I wish there was a story to go with the sword. I know Dad already owned it when I was five years old. Here is frame from a film shot during the 400th anniversary of St. Augustine Florida's founding in 1965. One of my dad's friends Dan Holiday is dress as a pirate carrying the sword in a parade.

A short clip of the video can be seen here:
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I wish there was a story to go with the sword. I know Dad already owned it when I was five years old. Here is frame from a film shot during the 400th anniversary of St. Augustine Florida's founding in 1965. One of my dad's friends Dan Holiday is dress as a pirate carrying the sword in a parade.

A short clip of the video can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMO...o&spfreload=10
Dana,
What better story could there be !
A pure sword in untouched condition!
I must admit when I saw you'r location the pirate background is sure a possibility, in fact it seems the best explanation for a late 16th or 17th century sword of that type getting there.
If you father bought it at an arms dealer he would have told you.
I think you should shout " boom baby"

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Dana,
What better story could there be !
A pure sword in untouched condition!
I must admit when I saw you'r location the pirate background is sure a possibility, in fact it seems the best explanation for a late 16th or 17th century sword of that type getting there.
If you father bought it at an arms dealer he would have told you.
I think you should shout " boom baby"

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Thanks Ulfberth.

The 429th anniversary of Sir Francis Drake’s raid on St. Augustine is fast approaching. The raid took place May 27th through the 29th 1586.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_St._Augustine
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Thanks Ulfberth.

The 429th anniversary of Sir Francis Drake’s raid on St. Augustine is fast approaching. The raid took place May 27th through the 29th 1586.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_St._Augustine
it fits perfect in the timeline of the sword !!
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