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ashoka · 28th April 2015, 09:16 AM

maybe a cut down rapier blade. A shame about the welding repairs to the blade mounts though

David R · 28th April 2015, 09:29 AM

If you got it at a reasonable price then you were lucky indeed. These seem to have gone up in price in leaps and bounds, and that's when they come up for sale at all. If the grip is wide enough to be held, then that is a double plus!

kronckew · 28th April 2015, 09:43 AM

he has a number of similar ones on offer, i got mine for about half what the others are starting at. can't discuss those tho.

top 2 in-hand photos from vendor - he may, of course have small hands

p.s. - vendors/forumites - always best to show an in-hand photo for scale.

bottom, edge on view of blade mounts

Jens Nordlunde · 28th April 2015, 02:11 PM

The length of the cross bars can wary, but not very much.
I have one katar where the cross bars are 6 cm, one where they are 8 cm, but the rest are 7 to 7.5 cm.
Should I use a katar the cross bars would have to be 10 cm.
Have a look at this thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...bone+structure

kronckew · 7th May 2015, 10:47 AM

she's here. weighing in at 554 grams (1.22 lb. or 19.5 oz.)

75mm across the bars inside & a tight fit for my hand for all 4 fingers, better if i leave the pinky out

the red rust in the photos not evident, even in sunlight, i suspect the vendor brass brushed it and oiled it before shipping. no evidence of welding i can see except for where the mounts join the main bar & that looks like it was made that way. the filleted corners of the side bars also smooth and look like they've always been there. the blade while lightly pitted looks a fully functional broken off sword tip. what appered to be 'cracks' in the mounts are not & no sign of welding, just some sort of worn figurine or decoration & well worn rivets.

all in all seems a nice old gal - a bit tired but still up for a good go.

ashoka · 7th May 2015, 09:40 PM

nice early Katar, welding areas circled. They've been blobbed and ground down a bit to make them less obvious, at least that's what it looks like from these photos.

Kubur · 7th May 2015, 11:01 PM

I totaly agree with Stefan.
Now what does it mean?
- A weakness of the joint between the old German blade and the Indian hilt?
- Or a fake?
I just ask because I always wondered about this kind of katar...

28th April 2015, 09:43 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	he has a number of similar ones on offer, i got mine for about half what the others are starting at. can't discuss those tho. top 2 in-hand photos from vendor - he may, of course have small hands p.s. - vendors/forumites - always best to show an in-hand photo for scale. bottom, edge on view of blade mounts Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 28th April 2015 at 10:03 AM.

28th April 2015, 02:11 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The length of the cross bars can wary, but not very much. I have one katar where the cross bars are 6 cm, one where they are 8 cm, but the rest are 7 to 7.5 cm. Should I use a katar the cross bars would have to be 10 cm. Have a look at this thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...bone+structure Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 28th April 2015 at 05:30 PM.

7th May 2015, 09:40 PM	#6
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	nice early Katar, welding areas circled. They've been blobbed and ground down a bit to make them less obvious, at least that's what it looks like from these photos. Attached Images

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28th April 2015, 09:16 AM	#1
ashoka Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 61	maybe a cut down rapier blade. A shame about the welding repairs to the blade mounts though

28th April 2015, 09:29 AM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	If you got it at a reasonable price then you were lucky indeed. These seem to have gone up in price in leaps and bounds, and that's when they come up for sale at all. If the grip is wide enough to be held, then that is a double plus!

7th May 2015, 10:47 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	she's here. weighing in at 554 grams (1.22 lb. or 19.5 oz.) 75mm across the bars inside & a tight fit for my hand for all 4 fingers, better if i leave the pinky out the red rust in the photos not evident, even in sunlight, i suspect the vendor brass brushed it and oiled it before shipping. no evidence of welding i can see except for where the mounts join the main bar & that looks like it was made that way. the filleted corners of the side bars also smooth and look like they've always been there. the blade while lightly pitted looks a fully functional broken off sword tip. what appered to be 'cracks' in the mounts are not & no sign of welding, just some sort of worn figurine or decoration & well worn rivets. all in all seems a nice old gal - a bit tired but still up for a good go.

7th May 2015, 11:01 PM	#7
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I totaly agree with Stefan. Now what does it mean? - A weakness of the joint between the old German blade and the Indian hilt? - Or a fake? I just ask because I always wondered about this kind of katar...