NAGA TRIBAL WEAPONS

Royston · 7th February 2015, 06:44 PM

Here are some of mine to add to the collection.
I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place.
The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post.
Regards
Roy

fearn · 9th February 2015, 12:13 AM

I'm currently rereading James C Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed, which is a great history of "Upland Southeast Asia" and helps explain the origin of the great diversity of peoples in the area.

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VANDOO · 6th March 2015, 05:08 AM

A VERY NICE COLLECTION WITH SOME COOL ITEMS I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE. HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES. #1., #9, &#10 kachin dao, 88cm. LONG
#2. NAGA WEAPONS PLATE FROM RAWSON'S BOOK
#3. REPLICA OF A NAGA HEADHUNTING TROPHY WITH A SPEAR POINT FINAL
#4, #5, #6, & #8. NAGA DAO 78 CM. LONG, NOTE DESIGNS ON SCABBARD DETAIL.
#7. NAGA DAO 81 CM. LONG FIRST HALF OF 20TH CENTURY

blacklacrau · 6th March 2015, 03:56 PM

What do you think about this one?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5685

DaveA · 6th March 2015, 08:56 PM

Blacklacrau,

From the attached illustration it appears that your weapon may be a dao originating with the Konyak Nagas.

See my earlier post in this thread, #10

- Dave A.

VANDOO · 6th March 2015, 10:59 PM

YOUR EXAMPLE LOOKS LIKE FIGURE E ON THE PLATE OF NAGA WEAPONS IN THE POST ABOVE. I CAN'T ADD MUCH TO THE POST YOU HAVE LINKED ON YOUR AX EXCEPT THAT PERHAPS IT WAS PLATED AT SOME TIME WITH BRASS OR BRONZE OR PAINTED. EITHER WAY IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD IRON BLADE THAT HAS A COATING THAT HAS WORN OFF. A NICE EXAMPLE OF THE FORM.

Bill M · 20th March 2015, 01:52 AM

A few more

VANDOO · 20th April 2015, 12:41 AM

VERY NICE EXAMPLES THE ALL STEEL AX FORM IS ESPECIALLY INTERESTING.
#1, #2, & #3. IDENTIFIED AS ABOR MILANG , TIBET 1954. THE HAT AND SWORD LOOK NAGA.
#4. PAINTING OF NAGAS FROM ASSAM
#5. NAGA CEREMONIAL DRESS
#6. NAGA SHIELD
#7. ASSORTMANT OF NAGA SPEARS
#8. GROUP OF NAGA MEN
#9. & #10. NAGA SWORD AND SCABBARD.

DaveA · 8th March 2015, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royston

Here are some of mine to add to the collection.
I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place.
The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post.
Regards
Roy

Quite a varied collection of Naga weapons ! Thanks for posting the pictures. Very helpful.

Best,

Dave A.

trenchwarfare · 10th March 2015, 03:24 AM

Guess I'll get in on this, more so, than just my mystery sword. Here are three Items, I've had for a while now. The spear, and axe, I know are Naga. The sickle, I dunno. The ebay auction said it was a Vietnam bringback. The spear has been repaired, and the axe, could be tourista. Well, here they are.

DaveA · 10th March 2015, 04:59 AM

The axe seems likely to originate with the Konyak Naga based on the information I have. The shape of the blade is indicative as is the red and black hair. The ancestor figure carving I have not seen before nor is it mentioned in the references I have. It reminds me of carvings by the Paiwan (Taiwan aboriginals) on their weapons.

- Dave A.

imas560 · 10th March 2015, 08:41 AM

Hello all,
have been busy with renovations so very inactive in regards to the forum. Saw this great thread and thought I'd display my Naga items. Apologies for background and the items being a bit in disarray, house is a bit of a shambles at the moment.
best wishes to all
imas560

VANDOO · 10th March 2015, 06:38 PM

SOME NICE EXAMPLES AND A VALUABLE ADDITION TO THE REFRENCE.

THE DESIGN ON THE BLADE OF THE CURVED KNIFE DOSEN'T LOOK NAGA TO ME OTHER THAN THAT I CAN'T SAY, PERHAPS SOMEONE WILL RECOGNIZE IT.
THE CARVED FACE ON THE DAO HANDLE IS SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN ON NAGA ITEMS BEFORE BUT IS A DECORATION CONSISTANT WITH HEADHUNTING SOCIETYS (I LIKE IT). WE CAN ONLY GUESS IF IT WAS CARVED AND PERSONALIZED BY THE OWNER OR ADDED TO MAKE THE ITEM EASIER TO SELL.

THE HEAD EITHER REPRESENTS A ANCESTOR OR A FRESHLY TAKEN HEAD. IF IT WERE A SKULL THE EYES WOULD NO DOUBT BE ROUND. HEADS OFTEN ARE REPRESENTED IN THE ART OF TRIBES THAT PRACTICED HEADHUNTING BUT THE DESIGN WAS NO DOUBT RESTRICTED BY TRIBAL TRADITIONS AND TABOOS AS TO WHERE AND WHEN IT COULD BE USED. IN MORE RECENT TIMES THE TRIBAL LIFE AND ITS TABOOS AND TRADITIONS HAVE NO DOUBT CHANGED ESPECIALLY NOW THAT HEADHUNTING IS NO LONGER PRACTICED.
I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT THE FANCY HAIRY NAGA SPEARS. THE HAIR NEAR THE POINT WOULD SERVE TO KEEP BLOOD FROM MAKING THE ENTIRE SHAFT SLICK. THE OTHER SECTION LIMITS THE GRIP AND MAKES IT SUITABLE FOR A SHORT THRUSTING SPEAR FUNCTIONING LIKE THE ZULU SPEAR. SLIDEING TECKNIQUES AS USED IN CHINESE AND OTHER SPEAR FIGHTING TECKNIQUES WOULD BE ELIMINATED. THE HAIR WOULD ALSO MAKE IT A VERY POOR THROWING SPEAR. PERHAPS THERE ARE FILMS OF THE NAGA STYLE OF SPEAR FIGHTING TECKNIQUES.? THE SHORT SPEAR WITH THE BAMBOO HANDLE AND THE SPEAR WITH ONLY HAIR NEAR THE BLADE AND THE STEEL BUTT SPIKE COULD BE USED MORE FREELY.
THE USE, TRIM AND COLORS OF THE HAIR DOES MAKE THE NAGA SPEAR ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL OF SPEARS.

VANDOO · 15th March 2015, 05:08 AM

NAGA SHIELDS #1. LEATHER, 36 X 101 CM.
#2. & #3. LEATHER SHIELD FRONT AND DETAIL OF BACK GRIP
#4. LEATHER WITH DECORATIVE TASSELS.

10th March 2015, 04:59 AM	#11
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 416	Naga Axe The axe seems likely to originate with the Konyak Naga based on the information I have. The shape of the blade is indicative as is the red and black hair. The ancestor figure carving I have not seen before nor is it mentioned in the references I have. It reminds me of carvings by the Paiwan (Taiwan aboriginals) on their weapons. - Dave A.

10th March 2015, 08:41 AM	#12
imas560 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 180	Hello all, have been busy with renovations so very inactive in regards to the forum. Saw this great thread and thought I'd display my Naga items. Apologies for background and the items being a bit in disarray, house is a bit of a shambles at the moment. best wishes to all imas560 Attached Images

15th March 2015, 05:08 AM	#14
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	NAGA SHIELDS #1. LEATHER, 36 X 101 CM. #2. & #3. LEATHER SHIELD FRONT AND DETAIL OF BACK GRIP #4. LEATHER WITH DECORATIVE TASSELS. Attached Images

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7th February 2015, 06:44 PM	#1
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	MORE PHOTOS Here are some of mine to add to the collection. I have posted some of these before, but it is better to have them all in one place. The first and second to last are the metal shafted examples. Numbers 6 and 7 in Dave A's post. Regards Roy Attached Images

9th February 2015, 12:13 AM	#2
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I'm currently rereading James C Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed, which is a great history of "Upland Southeast Asia" and helps explain the origin of the great diversity of peoples in the area. F

6th March 2015, 05:08 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE COLLECTION WITH SOME COOL ITEMS I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE. HERE ARE A FEW MORE PICTURES. #1., #9, &#10 kachin dao, 88cm. LONG #2. NAGA WEAPONS PLATE FROM RAWSON'S BOOK #3. REPLICA OF A NAGA HEADHUNTING TROPHY WITH A SPEAR POINT FINAL #4, #5, #6, & #8. NAGA DAO 78 CM. LONG, NOTE DESIGNS ON SCABBARD DETAIL. #7. NAGA DAO 81 CM. LONG FIRST HALF OF 20TH CENTURY Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 6th March 2015 at 06:11 AM.

6th March 2015, 03:56 PM	#4
blacklacrau Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 50	What do you think about this one? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5685 Attached Images

6th March 2015, 08:56 PM	#5
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 416	Konyak Blade Blacklacrau, From the attached illustration it appears that your weapon may be a dao originating with the Konyak Nagas. See my earlier post in this thread, #10 - Dave A. Attached Images Last edited by DaveA; 6th March 2015 at 09:00 PM. Reason: remove duplicate information

6th March 2015, 10:59 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	YOUR EXAMPLE LOOKS LIKE FIGURE E ON THE PLATE OF NAGA WEAPONS IN THE POST ABOVE. I CAN'T ADD MUCH TO THE POST YOU HAVE LINKED ON YOUR AX EXCEPT THAT PERHAPS IT WAS PLATED AT SOME TIME WITH BRASS OR BRONZE OR PAINTED. EITHER WAY IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD IRON BLADE THAT HAS A COATING THAT HAS WORN OFF. A NICE EXAMPLE OF THE FORM.

20th March 2015, 01:52 AM	#7
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	A few more Attached Images

20th April 2015, 12:41 AM	#8
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VERY NICE EXAMPLES THE ALL STEEL AX FORM IS ESPECIALLY INTERESTING. #1, #2, & #3. IDENTIFIED AS ABOR MILANG , TIBET 1954. THE HAT AND SWORD LOOK NAGA. #4. PAINTING OF NAGAS FROM ASSAM #5. NAGA CEREMONIAL DRESS #6. NAGA SHIELD #7. ASSORTMANT OF NAGA SPEARS #8. GROUP OF NAGA MEN #9. & #10. NAGA SWORD AND SCABBARD. Attached Images

10th March 2015, 03:24 AM	#10
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Guess I'll get in on this, more so, than just my mystery sword. Here are three Items, I've had for a while now. The spear, and axe, I know are Naga. The sickle, I dunno. The ebay auction said it was a Vietnam bringback. The spear has been repaired, and the axe, could be tourista. Well, here they are. Attached Images

10th March 2015, 06:38 PM	#13
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SOME NICE EXAMPLES AND A VALUABLE ADDITION TO THE REFRENCE. THE DESIGN ON THE BLADE OF THE CURVED KNIFE DOSEN'T LOOK NAGA TO ME OTHER THAN THAT I CAN'T SAY, PERHAPS SOMEONE WILL RECOGNIZE IT. THE CARVED FACE ON THE DAO HANDLE IS SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN ON NAGA ITEMS BEFORE BUT IS A DECORATION CONSISTANT WITH HEADHUNTING SOCIETYS (I LIKE IT). WE CAN ONLY GUESS IF IT WAS CARVED AND PERSONALIZED BY THE OWNER OR ADDED TO MAKE THE ITEM EASIER TO SELL. THE HEAD EITHER REPRESENTS A ANCESTOR OR A FRESHLY TAKEN HEAD. IF IT WERE A SKULL THE EYES WOULD NO DOUBT BE ROUND. HEADS OFTEN ARE REPRESENTED IN THE ART OF TRIBES THAT PRACTICED HEADHUNTING BUT THE DESIGN WAS NO DOUBT RESTRICTED BY TRIBAL TRADITIONS AND TABOOS AS TO WHERE AND WHEN IT COULD BE USED. IN MORE RECENT TIMES THE TRIBAL LIFE AND ITS TABOOS AND TRADITIONS HAVE NO DOUBT CHANGED ESPECIALLY NOW THAT HEADHUNTING IS NO LONGER PRACTICED. I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT THE FANCY HAIRY NAGA SPEARS. THE HAIR NEAR THE POINT WOULD SERVE TO KEEP BLOOD FROM MAKING THE ENTIRE SHAFT SLICK. THE OTHER SECTION LIMITS THE GRIP AND MAKES IT SUITABLE FOR A SHORT THRUSTING SPEAR FUNCTIONING LIKE THE ZULU SPEAR. SLIDEING TECKNIQUES AS USED IN CHINESE AND OTHER SPEAR FIGHTING TECKNIQUES WOULD BE ELIMINATED. THE HAIR WOULD ALSO MAKE IT A VERY POOR THROWING SPEAR. PERHAPS THERE ARE FILMS OF THE NAGA STYLE OF SPEAR FIGHTING TECKNIQUES.? THE SHORT SPEAR WITH THE BAMBOO HANDLE AND THE SPEAR WITH ONLY HAIR NEAR THE BLADE AND THE STEEL BUTT SPIKE COULD BE USED MORE FREELY. THE USE, TRIM AND COLORS OF THE HAIR DOES MAKE THE NAGA SPEAR ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL OF SPEARS.