Breech-Loading Swivel Gun / Cannon For Comment

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

...For stylistic as well as formal reasons, this breechloading bronze cannon barrel is closely datable to ca. 1530-1550; many of these are of Portuguese manufacture - now, does this give you some patriotic satisfaction, Nando? ...zigzag[/i] ornamentation cast in high relief and contoured by chiseling, is highly unusual for Asia, while characteristic of the Nuremberg Early Renaissance style...If made in a Nuremberg foundry, it should be dated to ca. 1525-40.[
Please note Nando's thread:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...+breechloading
and by the author:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...h+loading+1540...

May i disagree or confess that i am in the least confused ?
The zigzag (bamboo shoot ) motives are in low relief and are usual for Asia. This would be one of the common components of a Lantaka decoration .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=lantaka

I agree, as i first mentioned, that the breech loading style is that of a 'berço', a term implying that this would be of Portuguese nature and of the date suggested .
I wouldn't recall the date the lantaka (with such decoration type) appeared but, apart from that and if i may, i still suspect that this whole set may well be a knock off, either for (not so transparent) Web selling purposes or, as often happens, for local use, like for home decoration, wedding dowry, trade currency, etc.
Nowadays artificial ageing of things is far from being discerned by those non initiated, myself for one. Perhaps some solid data on its provenance might help clarify.

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