SILVER FILIGREE WITH BEADS KERIS

VANDOO · 29th May 2014, 05:33 PM

THIS ITEM CLOSED ON EBAY A FEW MONTHS AGO HOPEFULLY THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT CURRENTLY ON SALE.

I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AS TO ITS ORIGIONS.? IT IS SAID TO BE BUGIS AND HAS SILVER FILAGREE DECORATION AND IS INSET WITH BEADS OF SOME SORT. I WAS WONDERING IF THIS IS A OLD TRADITIONAL FORM OF HANDLE OR SOMETHING MORE RECENT AND WHERE THEY ARE MADE. IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THE TURKISH WEAPONS INLAYED WITH RED CORAL. RED CORAL WOULD HAVE LOOKED BETTER ON THIS EXAMPLE THAN THE BEADS USED BUT STILL AN INTERESTING HANDLE.

Sajen · 29th May 2014, 07:41 PM

Hello Barry,

it's a recent kerdas handle. There are so far I know old handles of this form, by the old ones the stones are rubys.
Here some old threads where similar hilts are shown: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...+kerdas+silver
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...senjata+pusaka

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 29th May 2014, 07:57 PM

Not only do I agree with Detlef, but it looks like this is not so much silver but perhaps silver plate at best, more likely brass like others of this recent type I have seen.

David · 29th May 2014, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

it's a recent kerdas handle. There are so far I know old handles of this form, by the old ones the stones are rubes.

Lots of NEW ones with rubies as well i would say. Most of the dress in that first link are very recent creations. But there are probably older examples of this style of hilt about.
BTW Barry, these stones are not beads, but what are known as "cabochons" regarding their cut. Not sure what kind of stone they are or even if they are truly stone.

Mick · 30th May 2014, 03:49 AM

Hey Guys

There are more of these items on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10665.

29th May 2014, 05:33 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SILVER FILIGREE WITH BEADS KERIS THIS ITEM CLOSED ON EBAY A FEW MONTHS AGO HOPEFULLY THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT CURRENTLY ON SALE. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AS TO ITS ORIGIONS.? IT IS SAID TO BE BUGIS AND HAS SILVER FILAGREE DECORATION AND IS INSET WITH BEADS OF SOME SORT. I WAS WONDERING IF THIS IS A OLD TRADITIONAL FORM OF HANDLE OR SOMETHING MORE RECENT AND WHERE THEY ARE MADE. IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THE TURKISH WEAPONS INLAYED WITH RED CORAL. RED CORAL WOULD HAVE LOOKED BETTER ON THIS EXAMPLE THAN THE BEADS USED BUT STILL AN INTERESTING HANDLE. Attached Images

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29th May 2014, 07:41 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,771	Hello Barry, it's a recent kerdas handle. There are so far I know old handles of this form, by the old ones the stones are rubys. Here some old threads where similar hilts are shown: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...+kerdas+silver http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...senjata+pusaka Regards, Detlef

29th May 2014, 07:57 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Not only do I agree with Detlef, but it looks like this is not so much silver but perhaps silver plate at best, more likely brass like others of this recent type I have seen.

30th May 2014, 03:49 AM	#5
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Hey Guys There are more of these items on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10665.