1735 Bicol ba'id chopper

Sajen · 26th May 2014, 04:17 PM

Agree with Robert,

there has been most proable a butt plate. But I think this will be a difficult undertaking to replace this butt plate since the construction is like Robert explained. But maybe this plate can be glued.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 8th June 2014, 07:22 AM

After your advice and my consultation with Miguel Diaz, I designed and made a plate for the top based on the floral motifs already present. I did have to make 3 silver nails to pin it down to the top, but made a hole to integrate the tang into the design, close to what it may have been.

Miguel Diaz also thinks that the "s"s on the blade probably represent nagas (which I agree) and the top plate in the form of a triangle is to represent a mountain, sacred to our ancestors.

Sajen · 8th June 2014, 09:32 AM

Look good! And the pictures good as well!

And again, what a beautiful chopper!

I have asked in up already, are there other ba'id choppers to show?

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 8th June 2014, 08:35 PM

Great work Jose, now the top of his head doesn't look naked.

Battara · 9th June 2014, 12:46 AM

Thank you. Yeah - not bald anymore.

As far as I and some PI collectors know, this may be the only one. There may be other collectors and museums with these and don't know it. What we have seen are the decedents of these pieces.

Robert · 9th June 2014, 03:05 AM

Jose, as you are referring to this as a "chopper" would I be wrong (because of its small size) in assuming that it was intended for chopping betel nut?

Best,
Robert

CharlesS · 9th June 2014, 02:56 PM

I remember when you got this Jose. It wasn't bad then, but you have really made it "pop" with your restorations.

Working and fitting all those small silver pieces could not have been an easy chore.

Really stunning!

8th June 2014, 07:22 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	After your advice and my consultation with Miguel Diaz, I designed and made a plate for the top based on the floral motifs already present. I did have to make 3 silver nails to pin it down to the top, but made a hole to integrate the tang into the design, close to what it may have been. Miguel Diaz also thinks that the "s"s on the blade probably represent nagas (which I agree) and the top plate in the form of a triangle is to represent a mountain, sacred to our ancestors. Attached Images

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26th May 2014, 04:17 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,645	Agree with Robert, there has been most proable a butt plate. But I think this will be a difficult undertaking to replace this butt plate since the construction is like Robert explained. But maybe this plate can be glued. Regards, Detlef

8th June 2014, 09:32 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,645	Look good! And the pictures good as well! And again, what a beautiful chopper! I have asked in up already, are there other ba'id choppers to show? Regards, Detlef

8th June 2014, 08:35 PM	#4
Robert (deceased) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Great work Jose, now the top of his head doesn't look naked.

9th June 2014, 12:46 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,379	Thank you. Yeah - not bald anymore. As far as I and some PI collectors know, this may be the only one. There may be other collectors and museums with these and don't know it. What we have seen are the decedents of these pieces.

9th June 2014, 03:05 AM	#6
Robert (deceased) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Jose, as you are referring to this as a "chopper" would I be wrong (because of its small size) in assuming that it was intended for chopping betel nut? Best, Robert

9th June 2014, 02:56 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I remember when you got this Jose. It wasn't bad then, but you have really made it "pop" with your restorations. Working and fitting all those small silver pieces could not have been an easy chore. Really stunning!