Classic Siraui like described

Sajen · 12th April 2014, 10:43 AM

Just get the information from a german auctionhouse that I have won this claasic siraui like described from Albert in his book on page 126. I have given a moderate bid, there was only shown this picture, I hope the blade is nice but it seems to be an old honest dagger. The scabbard has some missing wood and maybe a missing foot but I think that this can be restored. Soon as I have received it I will post some more pictures.
Comments are welcome!

Sajen · 10th May 2014, 04:17 PM

Have received the dagger already some days ago, nice item with a lot of patina and wear to the scabbard. 23,5 cm inside scabbard with a blade from 13 cm, no fullers. Here some more pictures, hopefully to receive some comments!

russel · 10th May 2014, 10:43 PM

Nice catch Detlef, congratulations.

Sajen · 10th May 2014, 10:53 PM

Thank you Russel,

they seems to be rare, I've seen only very few in the last years for sale. And by this one the price was correct.

Regards,
Detlef

manteris1 · 10th May 2014, 11:07 PM

Nice piece.................................jimmy

RSWORD · 11th May 2014, 02:52 AM

There is a near identical example in "Catalogue of Ethnographical Specimens" by W.O. Oldman, No. 119, Vol. X, entry #36.

Sajen · 11th May 2014, 10:27 AM

Thank you Jimmy and Rick!

Rick, I don't have the Oldman catalogue, when you don't mind could you post a picture from this page?

Regards,
Detlef

kai · 12th May 2014, 12:19 AM

Hello Detlef,

I agree this is a good, old siraui example.

From the pics it seems that the inner (concave) bevel is the primary edge; this would make this blade a kind of variant since classic siraui blades have their primary edge on the outer curve (convex side).

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 12th May 2014, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,

I agree this is a good, old siraui example.

From the pics it seems that the inner (concave) bevel is the primary edge; this would make this blade a kind of variant since classic siraui blades have their primary edge on the outer curve (convex side).

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

thank you! The blade has only one edge at the convex side, chiseled ground side.

Regards,
Detlef

RSWORD · 19th May 2014, 04:26 AM

My apologies for taking so long to post the image from the Oldman catalogue. Here you go!

Sajen · 19th May 2014, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSWORD

My apologies for taking so long to post the image from the Oldman catalogue. Here you go!

Thank you very much!

Indeed very similar!

Best,
Detlef

kai · 19th May 2014, 01:22 PM

Hello Detlef,

Quote:

The blade has only one edge at the convex side, chiseled ground side.

Thanks for the correction - I glossed over the back of the blade partially shown in your scabbard pic. Typical siraui, I agree!

Regards,
Kai

12th April 2014, 10:43 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Classic Siraui like described Just get the information from a german auctionhouse that I have won this claasic siraui like described from Albert in his book on page 126. I have given a moderate bid, there was only shown this picture, I hope the blade is nice but it seems to be an old honest dagger. The scabbard has some missing wood and maybe a missing foot but I think that this can be restored. Soon as I have received it I will post some more pictures. Comments are welcome! Attached Images

10th May 2014, 04:17 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Have received the dagger already some days ago, nice item with a lot of patina and wear to the scabbard. 23,5 cm inside scabbard with a blade from 13 cm, no fullers. Here some more pictures, hopefully to receive some comments! Attached Images

19th May 2014, 04:26 AM	#10
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	My apologies for taking so long to post the image from the Oldman catalogue. Here you go! Attached Images

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10th May 2014, 10:43 PM	#3
russel Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 236	Nice catch Detlef, congratulations.

10th May 2014, 10:53 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Thank you Russel, they seems to be rare, I've seen only very few in the last years for sale. And by this one the price was correct. Regards, Detlef

10th May 2014, 11:07 PM	#5
manteris1 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 114	Nice piece.................................jimmy

11th May 2014, 02:52 AM	#6
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	There is a near identical example in "Catalogue of Ethnographical Specimens" by W.O. Oldman, No. 119, Vol. X, entry #36.

11th May 2014, 10:27 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Thank you Jimmy and Rick! Rick, I don't have the Oldman catalogue, when you don't mind could you post a picture from this page? Regards, Detlef

12th May 2014, 12:19 AM	#8
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Detlef, I agree this is a good, old siraui example. From the pics it seems that the inner (concave) bevel is the primary edge; this would make this blade a kind of variant since classic siraui blades have their primary edge on the outer curve (convex side). Regards, Kai