Sword restored

Valjhun · 5th May 2013, 08:36 PM

As Christek said, your sword was indeed made during the napoleonic period in Klingenthal and I mean a 100% Klingenthal piece, as the vast majority of the napoleonic imperial era.

Quite desiderable, I would not mind owing it and if with original scabbard... that is rarely seen.

The poicons on the blade and hilt are Klingenthal insepector marks:

1. B with a star above:
BORSON Etienne, Louis Lieutenant-colonel Blade inspector 1st class and also director of the manufacture d'Etat from 1. august 1814 to 1. september 1815

2. B in imperial laurel wreath:
BICK, Jean-Georges, controlleur from 23 februar 1809 to 1 august 1824

3. The big corsiva B:
BISCH, Joseph, Ambroise, assemblation inspector, at Klingenthal from 23. feb. 1809

4. Big L is for:
LOBSTEIN François, Louis Klingenthal revisor from 15 june 1804

Most certainly from the late 1814, as the engraving on the back says.

Kind regards,

Matej

Multumesc · 6th May 2013, 10:08 AM

Maybe this sword was used in the battle of Waterloo?

Multumesc · 25th May 2013, 01:43 PM

This type of sword was used in the battle of Waterloo???

Have been used by officers?

fernando · 25th May 2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Multumesc

This type of sword was used in the battle of Waterloo???

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Apparently yes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Multumesc

Have been used by officers?

This was a Seargeant weapon, i guess

christek · 25th May 2013, 03:22 PM

Hello Multumesc,

I am no expert on this era, but I believe that these types of hangers were used by French infantry during the Waterloo Battle. While I understand that the British had ceased using regulation hangers by this period, I believe that the French still retained the idea. Perhaps not every infantrymen, but at least the elite 'Old Guard' (or Republican Guard) and other elite troops would certainly have been issued this short sword - (see pic below).

To answer your question regarding the use of these by officers, I do not think that these were extensively used by officers; who would have had more elaborate and longer sabres, in line with their social status. French Infantrymen would use these hangers as an immediate back-up weapon in case they lose their muskets with fixed bayonets.

Hope this helps a little!

Kind regards,
Chris

Multumesc · 29th September 2013, 11:29 AM

Thank you very much for your answers. It is possible and such swords with gilded handle?

6th May 2013, 10:08 AM	#2
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 211	Sword restored Maybe this sword was used in the battle of Waterloo? Attached Images

25th May 2013, 01:43 PM	#3
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 211	Sword restored This type of sword was used in the battle of Waterloo??? Have been used by officers?

25th May 2013, 03:22 PM	#5
christek Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 52	Hello Multumesc, I am no expert on this era, but I believe that these types of hangers were used by French infantry during the Waterloo Battle. While I understand that the British had ceased using regulation hangers by this period, I believe that the French still retained the idea. Perhaps not every infantrymen, but at least the elite 'Old Guard' (or Republican Guard) and other elite troops would certainly have been issued this short sword - (see pic below). To answer your question regarding the use of these by officers, I do not think that these were extensively used by officers; who would have had more elaborate and longer sabres, in line with their social status. French Infantrymen would use these hangers as an immediate back-up weapon in case they lose their muskets with fixed bayonets. Hope this helps a little! Kind regards, Chris Attached Images

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5th May 2013, 08:36 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	As Christek said, your sword was indeed made during the napoleonic period in Klingenthal and I mean a 100% Klingenthal piece, as the vast majority of the napoleonic imperial era. Quite desiderable, I would not mind owing it and if with original scabbard... that is rarely seen. The poicons on the blade and hilt are Klingenthal insepector marks: 1. B with a star above: BORSON Etienne, Louis Lieutenant-colonel Blade inspector 1st class and also director of the manufacture d'Etat from 1. august 1814 to 1. september 1815 2. B in imperial laurel wreath: BICK, Jean-Georges, controlleur from 23 februar 1809 to 1 august 1824 3. The big corsiva B: BISCH, Joseph, Ambroise, assemblation inspector, at Klingenthal from 23. feb. 1809 4. Big L is for: LOBSTEIN François, Louis Klingenthal revisor from 15 june 1804 Most certainly from the late 1814, as the engraving on the back says. Kind regards, Matej

29th September 2013, 11:29 AM	#6
Multumesc Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Romania Posts: 211	Thank you very much for your answers. It is possible and such swords with gilded handle?