Identification Help Needed

Sajen · 17th December 2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hello Detlef, Like Rick I am pretty sure that this is supposed to represent an elephants head with the trunk and the short tusk shown quite clearly. The small ears would be an Asian elephant if memory serves me correctly. How the seller could see a rams head in this carving is beyond me.

Regards,
Robert

Hello Robert,

have to agree, I have seen in the tusks the mouth of the figure. So is Tim maybe correct, Thailand, Burma seems a very good point.

Hope that someone will be able to tell us more.

Regards,

Detlef

David R · 21st December 2012, 10:26 PM

the scabbard looks Burmese or Thai...nice win!

Robert · 23rd December 2012, 02:20 AM

The dagger arrived today so here are a few pictures. The hilt material does not look like the water buffalo horn that I am used to seeing. There are a couple of pictures of the blade where I tried to show the pattern in the steel that did not turn out very well but will still give an idea of what it looks like. There are also a couple pf pictures that show the decorations on the top and bottom scabbard bands. I hope that these might help in placing where this dagger originated. Thank you all for your help so far and I am looking forward to any other comments anyone would like to offer.

Regards,
Robert

Robert · 23rd December 2012, 02:22 AM

Last of the pictures.

Battara · 23rd December 2012, 02:22 AM

Yup those are tusks and the material seems to be horn.

Robert · 23rd December 2012, 02:32 AM

Jose, do you have any thoughts on where this might have originated from ?

Regards,
Robert

Battara · 23rd December 2012, 04:40 AM

Well I am leaning toward Southeast Asian peninsula. I have seen scabbard work like this from Cambodia, etc. (as well as the Philippines).

Dom · 24th December 2012, 01:49 AM

Hi
the general shape of this dagger remind me yours
unfortunately, no picture for the blade
anyway, could be an indication
I was looking for something else in my book,
when I saw that and I did a scan

à +

Dom

23rd December 2012, 02:20 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	The dagger arrived today so here are a few pictures. The hilt material does not look like the water buffalo horn that I am used to seeing. There are a couple of pictures of the blade where I tried to show the pattern in the steel that did not turn out very well but will still give an idea of what it looks like. There are also a couple pf pictures that show the decorations on the top and bottom scabbard bands. I hope that these might help in placing where this dagger originated. Thank you all for your help so far and I am looking forward to any other comments anyone would like to offer. Regards, Robert Attached Images

23rd December 2012, 02:22 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Last of the pictures. Attached Images

24th December 2012, 01:49 AM	#8
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi the general shape of this dagger remind me yours unfortunately, no picture for the blade anyway, could be an indication I was looking for something else in my book, when I saw that and I did a scan à + Dom Attached Images

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21st December 2012, 10:26 PM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,120	the scabbard looks Burmese or Thai...nice win!

23rd December 2012, 02:22 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Yup those are tusks and the material seems to be horn.

23rd December 2012, 02:32 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Jose, do you have any thoughts on where this might have originated from ? Regards, Robert

23rd December 2012, 04:40 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Well I am leaning toward Southeast Asian peninsula. I have seen scabbard work like this from Cambodia, etc. (as well as the Philippines).