SCHIAVONA SWORD VARIATIONS.

Enibas · 26th July 2012, 07:15 AM

Hello Pappa-karlo,

just I saw your niece piece. Quite perfect hilt, nice pommel.

I guess, that the stamped letters are cyrillic.
We can find a sciavona, also younger type (18th century ) with "three ladders" in the Collection Carl Beck. Sursee (Swiss). There is the name "Sava" stamped in cyrillic letters into the hilt (http://www.waffensammlung-beck.ch/waffe67.html). The author Boccia mentions five Sciavone with the lettering "Sava" in cyrillic. It is assumed that this is the name of the master, who built the hilts.
Thus, it could be here to be a master signature
In this case, would Pappa-Karlo's sciavona also a hint that not only o n e master in cyrillic letters signed. Certainly there were no Italians, signed in Cyrillic, but there were craftsmen from abroad. Perhaps these craftsmen came from the Balkans. The rich Venice undoubtedly attracted numerous artisans from abroad and also had the need.

May be someone in the forum who can translate this cyrillic letters?

Very unusually is the plate at the hilt.
I am sorry, I did not found a english term for "Stichblatt"

. Never see before. But I've seen other modifications to sciavone. and do not rule out that the plate is mounted original. Thank your very much for showing, Pappa-Karlo!

pappa-karlo · 26th July 2012, 01:59 PM

Thank you very much for your detailed response. It's very interesting. I think this should be name. I found the Serbian alphabet, but only a couple of letters are similar. Not easy question.

26th July 2012, 07:15 AM	#1
Enibas Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 13	Unkown master? Hello Pappa-karlo, just I saw your niece piece. Quite perfect hilt, nice pommel. I guess, that the stamped letters are cyrillic. We can find a sciavona, also younger type (18th century ) with "three ladders" in the Collection Carl Beck. Sursee (Swiss). There is the name "Sava" stamped in cyrillic letters into the hilt (http://www.waffensammlung-beck.ch/waffe67.html). The author Boccia mentions five Sciavone with the lettering "Sava" in cyrillic. It is assumed that this is the name of the master, who built the hilts. Thus, it could be here to be a master signature In this case, would Pappa-Karlo's sciavona also a hint that not only o n e master in cyrillic letters signed. Certainly there were no Italians, signed in Cyrillic, but there were craftsmen from abroad. Perhaps these craftsmen came from the Balkans. The rich Venice undoubtedly attracted numerous artisans from abroad and also had the need. May be someone in the forum who can translate this cyrillic letters? Very unusually is the plate at the hilt. I am sorry, I did not found a english term for "Stichblatt" . Never see before. But I've seen other modifications to sciavone. and do not rule out that the plate is mounted original. Thank your very much for showing, Pappa-Karlo!

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26th July 2012, 01:59 PM	#2
pappa-karlo Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15	Thank you very much for your detailed response. It's very interesting. I think this should be name. I found the Serbian alphabet, but only a couple of letters are similar. Not easy question.