More Moro(?) spears....

nacho · 27th March 2012, 03:17 AM

Hi Charles,

A similar moro spear was sold by Ashoka Arts last year. It also has the incised decoration using Chinese motif, on silver. This one has a twistcore blade. I have always wondered about this one, even at one point questioned whether it is moro (am now more convinced it is moro).

Edwin

Nonoy Tan · 27th March 2012, 04:46 AM

I have seen these kind of spears (i.e. with Chinese motifs and/or characters) in some residences located on the eastern coast of Palawan, facing the Sulu Sea. Some areas there are predominantly Muslim. Also the influence of the Chinese in these parts of Sulu have been very strong, in the past as well as the present.

CharlesS · 27th March 2012, 04:53 PM

Nacho,

Very interesting spear, and had someone asked be about it without having any clue torwards its actual attribution, I would be very pulled between Moro and Sumatran....Sumatran primarily because of the way the haft is worked.

Very interesting piece!

nacho · 27th March 2012, 05:46 PM

This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade.

Battara · 27th March 2012, 10:41 PM

What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

harimauhk · 28th March 2012, 03:17 AM

The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

Battara · 28th March 2012, 02:38 PM

Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.

27th March 2012, 03:17 AM	#1
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	Hi Charles, A similar moro spear was sold by Ashoka Arts last year. It also has the incised decoration using Chinese motif, on silver. This one has a twistcore blade. I have always wondered about this one, even at one point questioned whether it is moro (am now more convinced it is moro). Edwin Attached Images

27th March 2012, 05:46 PM	#4
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	This was posted by Lee, Nov 16, 2010. Similarly with incised decoration on silver. This one also has a twistcore blade. Attached Images

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27th March 2012, 04:46 AM	#2
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	I have seen these kind of spears (i.e. with Chinese motifs and/or characters) in some residences located on the eastern coast of Palawan, facing the Sulu Sea. Some areas there are predominantly Muslim. Also the influence of the Chinese in these parts of Sulu have been very strong, in the past as well as the present.

27th March 2012, 04:53 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Nacho, Very interesting spear, and had someone asked be about it without having any clue torwards its actual attribution, I would be very pulled between Moro and Sumatran....Sumatran primarily because of the way the haft is worked. Very interesting piece!

27th March 2012, 10:41 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	What about Chinese Moros? There were some who had Chinese in their blood, and I heard of one even becoming a datu..........

28th March 2012, 03:17 AM	#6
harimauhk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 88	The Chinese have definitely long been in and out of the Philippines: I was recently down in Basilan and Zamboanga, a stone's throw from Sulu, and there were Chinese businesses everywhere, even with the very real threat of shootouts and bombings. There has long been Chinese influence in the region. There was some very nice Chinese trade pottery on display at the museums in Sabah, Borneo too.

28th March 2012, 02:38 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Thank you Harimauhk, my point exactly.