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14th July 2009, 05:54 PM
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Thanks Ganja,
I have also read Mulderīs book on Mysticism. Another of my favourites are Koentjaraningratīs Javanese Culture. Enough with words and back to the function of this keris. I suspect the clue is that earth spirits are afraid of iron and people are afraid of earth spirits. So if you want to protect yourself against earth spirits itīs good to have a piece of iron on you or next to the object, like a rice-field, you want to protect... Michael |
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14th July 2009, 06:27 PM
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A straight "puthut kembar" (twin priest) keris... GANJAWULUNG |
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14th July 2009, 09:27 PM
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Hi all, here's my talismanic keris, blade is 139mm long with a slot cut through the blade. When I bought it I was told the slot was for poison
 in the bottom half of the slot there is a colourless residue which I have left well alone! Does anyone know any significance to the stripe down the sheath? It has been carefully shaped to ensure the stripe in the middle. The blade also appears to have a very stylised "putut" too.
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16th July 2009, 06:28 AM
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The 'silver' frame, I guess you made it yourself. Didn't you? GANJAWULUNG |
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16th July 2009, 07:08 AM
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Searching "words" on mysticism, for instance. It will enrich your knowledge on keris. As Mulder said in his book ... "mysticism has occupied a place of pride in Javanese culture for a very long time..." Event with the advent of Islam and its social organization, in Indonesia -- according to Niels Mulder -- mysticism in Java have changed, adapting themselves to and being shaped by new circumstances... "Slametan", for instance or as Alan just said in the previous post on "bersih desa" ritual, may be it could be explain a little bit -- why in the past Javanese used to give "offering" to the mother nature... "Slametan" -- according to Mulder -- is a core ritual to sustain, maintain, or promote order. A communal religious meal in which neighbours plus some relatives and friends participate. Slametan demonstrate the desire to be safe in an unruly world... GANJAWULUNG |
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16th July 2009, 03:48 PM
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Physically, it is not worth to be called as weapon. Too thin, although the 'sarung' or sheath looks like a small pedang-warangka -- made of "sana keling" wood (blackish wood, I don't know the English name of it) and "mamas" frame...
Very thin old blade, with dhapur "betok". And it has a residual ornament in the "sor-soran" (lower) part. Like my other "talismanic keris", the blade also smelled so strong of "misik" parfume... GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 16th July 2009 at 04:02 PM. |
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21st November 2011, 03:35 PM
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I have attached my tiny patrem, its dapur is Brojol. I do not know whether we can call it as patrem or not more than talismanic item. The full length is 7 cm including pesi. It seems to forge pamor, iron, and core into the blade.
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22nd November 2011, 06:35 PM
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kris sajen also have a balance ....
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15th July 2012, 03:43 PM
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Very Interesting Thread! 'TALASMANIC KERISes'!
Mine is made of copper recenlty acquired, I do not know whether 'material-copper' is good for Jimat (Talasmanic). Length 25cm in sheath. I wouldn't know whether is new or old because many Javanese old fake kerises in the market. No talasmanic-waves transmitted yet because the keris is just on its way to my home.he he he..hopefully it turns out to be something nice.
SHARING A METHOD: ACTIVATING MYSTICAL PROPERTIES OF NON-ACTIVE KERISES: : Put your keris on top of a white bowl containing water, get a 15 inch Magnifying Glass and place it on top of your Keris during a Full Moon night. Let the moon shine on your keris untill it moves away. If you don't get immediate result, do it a few times during a full moon night. Gud Luck. Last edited by mykeris; 16th July 2012 at 03:01 AM. |
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17th July 2012, 12:47 AM
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Lee Jones: Is this thread closed?
No moderators...? Thanks..mykeris
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17th July 2012, 03:09 AM
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17th July 2012, 03:27 PM
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If the thread were closed you would not have been able to post here...
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