Yataghan and Shamshir Translation request

AJ1356 · 19th September 2011, 02:18 PM

First one reads توکلت علی الله meaning Trust in God. The second one is hard to read, plus I have a headache so i am not paying much attention. If you take a chalk and fill-in the engravings then it would make it much easier to read and translate. Also it would be nice if you take complete pictures so we can enjoy some eye candy.

Aleksey G. · 19th September 2011, 03:17 PM

Rigby,
hello, I second AJ1356's request. If you enjoy a free translation service please post a full view of the pieces for our continued study and enjoyment. Blade closeups look great. Thank you Rigby, Alex

A.alnakkas · 19th September 2011, 05:11 PM

Hi Rigby,

I totally agree with RJ and Aleksey, Its for our pleasure that we see what we translate. Just translating without seeing the whole thing isnt really that fun and limits discussion :-)

Regards,

AlNakkas

Rigby · 20th September 2011, 12:44 AM

Sorry!
Here are the images and thank you AJ1356 for the translation. I have tried to fill the second cartouche with chalk, does it help any?

The second sword here is unusual, and unfortunately missing a quilllon. I believe this is a form of Lucknow hilt and the engravings on the hilt include the stork, corn and anglo/heraldic device on the langet. I think the parasol mark may indicate that it was associated with a royal armoury. There is also some additional inscription under the plating toward the hilt, hard to make out. If anyone has any suggestion for safely removing the plating I would be grateful though I am inclined to let time do the work, as it is flaking away.

Aleksey G. · 21st September 2011, 04:46 AM

oooooouuuuu goody......that yataghan blade looks wootz to me.

20th September 2011, 12:44 AM	#4
Rigby Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2	Apologies and more images Sorry! Here are the images and thank you AJ1356 for the translation. I have tried to fill the second cartouche with chalk, does it help any? The second sword here is unusual, and unfortunately missing a quilllon. I believe this is a form of Lucknow hilt and the engravings on the hilt include the stork, corn and anglo/heraldic device on the langet. I think the parasol mark may indicate that it was associated with a royal armoury. There is also some additional inscription under the plating toward the hilt, hard to make out. If anyone has any suggestion for safely removing the plating I would be grateful though I am inclined to let time do the work, as it is flaking away. Attached Images

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19th September 2011, 02:18 PM	#1
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 317	First one reads توکلت علی الله meaning Trust in God. The second one is hard to read, plus I have a headache so i am not paying much attention. If you take a chalk and fill-in the engravings then it would make it much easier to read and translate. Also it would be nice if you take complete pictures so we can enjoy some eye candy.

19th September 2011, 03:17 PM	#2
Aleksey G. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 70	Rigby, hello, I second AJ1356's request. If you enjoy a free translation service please post a full view of the pieces for our continued study and enjoyment. Blade closeups look great. Thank you Rigby, Alex

19th September 2011, 05:11 PM	#3
A.alnakkas Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 1,340	Hi Rigby, I totally agree with RJ and Aleksey, Its for our pleasure that we see what we translate. Just translating without seeing the whole thing isnt really that fun and limits discussion :-) Regards, AlNakkas

21st September 2011, 04:46 AM	#5
Aleksey G. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 70	oooooouuuuu goody......that yataghan blade looks wootz to me.