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rasdan · 9th June 2011, 11:43 AM

Thanks for the explanation Alan.

Regarding quality.

For example, in the first keris, we can see that the pamor from the pucuk towards mid blade covers the the entire blade width, but towards the sorsoran, there's a section where the pamor does not cover the width evenly. Is this an acceptable feature for a good keris?

Within the limitations of the above photos, what can you say about the quality of the 2 keris we have in this thread (in terms of shape etc) ? Do you think the kembang kacang is properly shaped?

A. G. Maisey · 9th June 2011, 02:01 PM

Rasdan, you are asking me to comment on quality of these keris on the basis of two photos that are less than good and in the incorrect orientation.

I am reluctant to comment on quality, and many other things about keris on the basis of very high quality photos.

Try to look at this from my perspective:- I'm looking at two keris here that from what I can see in these sub-standard photos are extremely ordinary keris. Even if I had these keris in my hand I would not bother to spend more than 5 seconds on either one in an assessment of quality. Now you ask me to make public comments that could offend the owners or influence the opinions of others --- and this on the basis of photos where I cannot really justify my opinion.

This exercise has the potential to make me look like an idiot.

I'm sorry, but I have no further comments to make on either of these keris.

However --- that lack of pamor near the sorsoran on keris #1 is not really acceptable.

rasdan · 9th June 2011, 02:40 PM

Yes Alan, you are right. I shouldn't ask you to comment on other people's keris. Sorry. On the other hand, thank you for the explanation about the pamor.

FilAmfighter1 · 9th June 2011, 04:47 PM

Guys thanks for examination of my friend blade. What kind of range is it worth?

David · 9th June 2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilAmfighter1

Guys thanks for examination of my friend blade. What kind of range is it worth?

Please read the forum rules again....we do not allow monetary assessments on the forums...

asomotif · 9th June 2011, 11:11 PM

The scabbard look like it has some age. (imho)

A. G. Maisey · 10th June 2011, 12:30 AM

Rasdan, I could not understand why you raised the question of quality, and I've been thinking about this. Then I realised that I had written:-

I've seen a great many blades of this type and quality

I suspect that you understood my use of the word "quality" to mean that I considered this blade to be of quality. Not so. I did not use an adjective with the word "quality", because I do not like to be overtly offensive. I left it for others to decide exactly what level of quality I intended.

Sorry for creating this misunderstanding.

9th June 2011, 04:47 PM	#4
FilAmfighter1 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Torrance Posts: 49	Thanks for the reply Guys thanks for examination of my friend blade. What kind of range is it worth?

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9th June 2011, 11:43 AM	#1
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Thanks for the explanation Alan. Regarding quality. For example, in the first keris, we can see that the pamor from the pucuk towards mid blade covers the the entire blade width, but towards the sorsoran, there's a section where the pamor does not cover the width evenly. Is this an acceptable feature for a good keris? Within the limitations of the above photos, what can you say about the quality of the 2 keris we have in this thread (in terms of shape etc) ? Do you think the kembang kacang is properly shaped?

9th June 2011, 02:01 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,209	Rasdan, you are asking me to comment on quality of these keris on the basis of two photos that are less than good and in the incorrect orientation. I am reluctant to comment on quality, and many other things about keris on the basis of very high quality photos. Try to look at this from my perspective:- I'm looking at two keris here that from what I can see in these sub-standard photos are extremely ordinary keris. Even if I had these keris in my hand I would not bother to spend more than 5 seconds on either one in an assessment of quality. Now you ask me to make public comments that could offend the owners or influence the opinions of others --- and this on the basis of photos where I cannot really justify my opinion. This exercise has the potential to make me look like an idiot. I'm sorry, but I have no further comments to make on either of these keris. However --- that lack of pamor near the sorsoran on keris #1 is not really acceptable.

9th June 2011, 02:40 PM	#3
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Yes Alan, you are right. I shouldn't ask you to comment on other people's keris. Sorry. On the other hand, thank you for the explanation about the pamor.

9th June 2011, 11:11 PM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,238	The scabbard look like it has some age. (imho)

10th June 2011, 12:30 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,209	Rasdan, I could not understand why you raised the question of quality, and I've been thinking about this. Then I realised that I had written:- I've seen a great many blades of this type and quality I suspect that you understood my use of the word "quality" to mean that I considered this blade to be of quality. Not so. I did not use an adjective with the word "quality", because I do not like to be overtly offensive. I left it for others to decide exactly what level of quality I intended. Sorry for creating this misunderstanding.