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Rick, Thank you very much for your thoughts and the pictures. I just wish that I had known that you were parting with the three that you show in the picture as I would have loved to have added them to my own collection.
Migueldiaz, Thank you very much for your insight into the names and for the pictures of the Cebu Island highlands edged weapons and the links. As usual I have copied this for later reference. I particularly like the photo of the "young lady" and wonder how long that she has had and used the sundang that she is carrying? One last thing, could you email me a copy of the one picture that you did not post as I would be very interested in seeing it. Here is another acquisition of mine that has not arrived yet. The pictures are from the auction site. I have not seen a hilt like this one before so any information on it would be greatly appreciated. I would guess that it is from Luzon even though I do not know if the tang extends completely through the hilt or not "as it is not shown clearly enough in the pictures to tell for sure". All I know is that the blade is 18-1/4 inches long and supposedly about 3/8 of an inch thick at the hilt so I would imagine that the total length would be around 23 inches. I also wonder if it might not have had a metal collar around the grip right behind the guard a some point in time? Again my thanks to everyone for their help. Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 4th February 2011 at 07:23 AM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Robert, thanks for the comments.
Your new sword looks like it's chisel-ground (thus, Visayan as we all know). I have a sword with a similar blade profile, which is also Visayan (pic is below). As for the hilt, there's a Visayan blade (Samar to be exact) in Krieger's catalogue with a similar form: "Plate 13 -- Hand weapons for cutting, piercing, and stabbing: Knives and daggers. No. 1. Dagger; triangular sectioned, curved, and pointed blade; single cutting edge; carved wood handle. Quinapundar, Samar Island." As an aside, triangular sectioned means that it's the dreaded tres cantos (three corners), as we call it locally. Is it true that such blade cross-section was banned by the Geneva Convention, as it's very hard to sew up the wound created? Heard this from an expert Pawn Stars got, in one episode ![]() As for the "young lady", she said that her sundang has been with her for the last 50 to 60 years or so. That's also one thing I noticed in the area -- the sundang they got when they were in their teens and twenties continue to be the ones they use up to now. Thus through years of grinding, the blades' present width compared with the scabbard width has a huge disparity by this time (see pic). |
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Hello Robert,
two interesting new aquisitions for your ever growing collection and thank you that you part them with us. Never will get bored to see your Bolos. Regards, Detlef |
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Here is another acquisition of mine that has not arrived yet. The pictures are from the auction site. I have not seen a hilt like this one before so any information on it would be greatly appreciated. I would guess that it is from Luzon even though I do not know if the tang extends completely through the hilt or not "as it is not shown clearly enough in the pictures to tell for sure". All I know is that the blade is 18-1/4 inches long and supposedly about 3/8 of an inch thick at the hilt so I would imagine that the total length would be around 23 inches. I also wonder if it might not have had a metal collar around the grip right behind the guard a some point in time? Again my thanks to everyone for their help.
Robert[/QUOTE] Hello Robert!! Congratulations for this pair of beauties!! I have one knife with a hit similar to your second adquisition, But whe I bought it seller only tell me that was african I wish you enjoy this weapons and thanks for the post!1 best regards carlos |
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Migueldiaz, Boy do I feel silly. I was so interested in the hilt that I failed to even notice the fact that the blade was chisel ground.
I think that I might need a new pair of glasses. WOW, 50-60 years. Now that's getting your moneys worth on anything especially a general utility knife. I hate to think how many kitchen knives alone that I have gone through in the last 40 years. Sajen, Thank you for your kind words. Seeing that bolos seem to be about 90% of what I post I was worried that the members here might be getting tired of looking at them. Again my thanks. Carlos, Thank you too for your kind words. If you would, could you please post a picture that shows all of your wonderful knife? One more question on the last item that I posted. Seeing as this is from the Visayan would it be refered to as a tenegre or something else? Robert |
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Yes, of course!!n those are thee pictures from knife.
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Carlos, Thank you very much for sharing these wonderful pieces. Having the scabbards for them both is especially nice. On more than half of the ones that I find the scabbards are either completely missing or in really poor condition.
IF you EVER decide to part with them please keep me in mind as I would love to add them both to my collection. Here is a small Visayans knife that I just received. It has a beautiful Kamagong wood hilt even though it is roughly carved. It has a collection number on the hilt that reads L300 but I have no idea of what or who's collection it might have been from. Robert |
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Carlos, thanks for posting the pics of your Phil. blades. Nice!
Robert, that's a nice plamingko. That's how the Visayans call their traditional utility knife, and your plamingko surely follows the typical format. |
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Migueldiaz, Again my thanks for the information on my new "plamingko". When it arrived it did come with a scabbard but I have not yet been able to remove the layers of scotch tape that it is covered in. The tape is very old and the adhesive is attached firmly to the wood. I am afraid that paint remover might be my last resort in removing it. Below is a picture of what it looked like when it arrived.
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