bugi keris

semar · 28th August 2010, 08:09 PM

ho can tel me the name of the pamor and the name of the wood ware the scabbard is made from

regards semar

Marcokeris · 28th August 2010, 08:18 PM

I like a lot this blade (...pamor) ALso the root of sarong seems very nice

BluErf · 29th August 2010, 06:03 AM

This is a Bugis-like keris, not a Bugis keris. To find the answer to your questions, perhaps you should try to ask the makers, who are probably still producing these Bugis-like kerises now.

BigG · 29th August 2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

This is a Bugis-like keris, not a Bugis keris. To find the answer to your questions, perhaps you should try to ask the makers, who are probably still producing these Bugis-like kerises now.

agree.. it is meant to emulate the stye of the Tappi Sappukala or the Sepokal Keris of the bugis... But though there is a very slight curve to the blade... the overall look simply does not fit in to the Bugis Sepokal design...

The pamor is too refined and complex for a Bugis blade... there are Bugis and Bugis influence blades wth excellent examples of pamors.. notable those from Palembang,Trenganu & Sumbawa... but i believe this is far too refined and does not give a feel of a bugis blade...

This blade may also be missing a ganjar...

Rick · 29th August 2010, 05:10 PM

Gentlemen, let's continue without personal conflict please .

I'd suggest PM's for the other stuff .

Rick · 29th August 2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigG

agree.. it is meant to emulate the stye of the Tappi Sappukala or the Sepokal Keris of the bugis... But though there is a very slight curve to the blade... the overall look simply does not fit in to the Bugis Sepokal design...

The pamor is too refined and complex for a Bugis blade... there are Bugis and Bugis influence blades wth excellent examples of pamors.. notable those from Palembang,Trenganu & Sumbawa... but i believe this is far too refined and does not give a feel of a bugis blade...

This blade may also be missing a ganjar...

I was thinking it looked a bit odd for an Iras .

The pamor seems well controlled and imo goes along nicely with the grain of the Gonjo ................errrr wrongko .

David · 30th August 2010, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

The pamor seems well controlled and imo goes along nicely with the grain of the Gonjo

Did you mean wrongko/sarong here? If so, i agree.

Rick · 30th August 2010, 02:40 AM

Doh !!

Busy day, tired .

Must proofread .

Fixed .

'night . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

sirek · 30th August 2010, 11:37 AM

in my opinion this wood called: "afzelia xylocarpa"

Text from the internet:

(Afzelia wood can have incredible figure, and the most outstanding and rare is the xlay figure . It looks like raised alligator skin, which really shows best when the surface is very highly polished. No other wood figure looks quite like it, and it is very hard to get, being only a tiny percentage of the afzelia wood available.)

BigG · 30th August 2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Gentlemen, let's continue without personal conflict please .

I'd suggest PM's for the other stuff .

My apolagies if I have caused any offence...

BigG · 30th August 2010, 11:56 AM

Should I have been mistaken in my initial asessment about the missing ganjar... may we be given a look at the base of the ganjar... the the form of the sekar cicak... would be a good indicator...

Rick · 30th August 2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigG

My apolagies if I have caused any offence...

None at all; my comment was in reference to a deleted post that is a bit back up the list of replies to this thread .

BigG · 30th August 2010, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

None at all; my comment was in reference to a deleted post that is a bit back up the list of replies to this thread .

K..

semar · 30th August 2010, 06:52 PM

thank you sirek
for your reply about the name of the wood

regards semar

BluErf · 31st August 2010, 05:03 PM

Hi Semar,

I'm sorry for upsetting you with my comments. They had been thoughtless and a knee-jerk response from me. I had no ill intentions other than sharing my opinion on this keris.

My apologies again.

Regards,
Kai Wee

semar · 2nd September 2010, 12:00 PM

oke no hard feelings bleuerf and thank you for your apologies

regards semar

PenangsangII · 3rd September 2010, 05:14 AM

IMHO, this is a dapur brojol, dressed in Bugis-like sarung and hilt. Judging from the pamor's garap, I opine that this is made by Maduran pandhe.....

28th August 2010, 08:09 PM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	bugi keris ho can tel me the name of the pamor and the name of the wood ware the scabbard is made from regards semar Attached Images

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Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	I like a lot this blade (...pamor) ALso the root of sarong seems very nice Last edited by Marcokeris; 28th August 2010 at 09:02 PM.

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sirek Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 169	in my opinion this wood called: "afzelia xylocarpa" Text from the internet: (Afzelia wood can have incredible figure, and the most outstanding and rare is the xlay figure . It looks like raised alligator skin, which really shows best when the surface is very highly polished. No other wood figure looks quite like it, and it is very hard to get, being only a tiny percentage of the afzelia wood available.) Attached Images

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29th August 2010, 06:03 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	This is a Bugis-like keris, not a Bugis keris. To find the answer to your questions, perhaps you should try to ask the makers, who are probably still producing these Bugis-like kerises now.

29th August 2010, 05:10 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Gentlemen, let's continue without personal conflict please . I'd suggest PM's for the other stuff .

30th August 2010, 02:40 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Doh !! Busy day, tired . Must proofread . Fixed . 'night . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

30th August 2010, 11:56 AM	#11
BigG Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 75	Should I have been mistaken in my initial asessment about the missing ganjar... may we be given a look at the base of the ganjar... the the form of the sekar cicak... would be a good indicator...

30th August 2010, 06:52 PM	#14
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thank you sirek for your reply about the name of the wood regards semar

31st August 2010, 05:03 PM	#15
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Semar, I'm sorry for upsetting you with my comments. They had been thoughtless and a knee-jerk response from me. I had no ill intentions other than sharing my opinion on this keris. My apologies again. Regards, Kai Wee

2nd September 2010, 12:00 PM	#16
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	oke no hard feelings bleuerf and thank you for your apologies regards semar

3rd September 2010, 05:14 AM	#17
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	IMHO, this is a dapur brojol, dressed in Bugis-like sarung and hilt. Judging from the pamor's garap, I opine that this is made by Maduran pandhe.....