PALEMBANG HILT AND KERIS

Sajen · 23rd May 2010, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Thanks Dave,

I've sent message to Karaeng Kesuma in facebook to join this discussion, if he won't mind. He stays in Lampung, and has a couple of Sumatran keris photo collection in his facebook...

Btw, this Palembang hilt. Could I compose it with this silver pendokok?

GANJAWULUNG

Hello Pak Ganja,

the silver pendokok look nice with the hilt and blade. Do you want to give a warangan to the blade or you want to let it unstained?

Regards,

Detlef

Moshah · 23rd May 2010, 01:37 PM

Thanks Dave, pak Ganja and bro Alam for those inputs.

I asked because two things:

1) Normally lampung hilts have long, curved beaks.

2) The hilt picture I posted have similar motives to pak Ganja's ivory hilt motives.

I didn't doubt it will be from Lampung, but was the curves on the posted hilt's body is normal for it's kind?

I really know very little about lampung hilts, so any inputs from all of you are really helpful...

Sajen · 23rd May 2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

Thanks Dave, pak Ganja and bro Alam for those inputs.

I asked because two things:

1) Normally lampung hilts have long, curved beaks.

2) The hilt picture I posted have similar motives to pak Ganja's ivory hilt motives.

I didn't doubt it will be from Lampung, but was the curves on the posted hilt's body is normal for it's kind?

I really know very little about lampung hilts, so any inputs from all of you are really helpful...

Hello Moshah,

there are a lot of different styles of this south sumatran hilt. But I also don't know how to differentiate between.

Here examples from my collection. The pictures are taken fast so I apologize for the quality.

Regards,

Detlef

Sajen · 23rd May 2010, 02:15 PM

And there is a hilt type with similar features but also with style elements from Cirebon. So I am never sure from where this hilt coming.

Moshah · 23rd May 2010, 03:27 PM

Hi Detlef,

Thanks for those beautiful hilts pics!

i think it bears similarities to your hilt no 1 (the first pix), especially the carving motives.

Is that first pix hilt was a true blue lampung hilt?

Could u post the picture of the first one, this time from the back of the hilt?

Sorry for the inconveniences...

Sajen · 23rd May 2010, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

Hi Detlef,

Thanks for those beautiful hilts pics!

i think it bears similarities to your hilt no 1 (the first pix), especially the carving motives.

Is that first pix hilt was a true blue lampung hilt?

Could u post the picture of the first one, this time from the back of the hilt?

Sorry for the inconveniences...

Hi Moshah,

I received the hilt together with the keris and I I ever have thought that it is a Palembang keris.

Here the requested pictures. The keris was shown in this thread before:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10998

Regards,

Detlef

Moshah · 24th May 2010, 05:45 AM

Oh is it...

No wonder I can still recall that kinatah works.

However in that recent post about this keris, the hilt was not really featured, so this is the first close-up isn't it?

Nice hilt. Also now I learned that this kind of hilt is not necessarily means it's a palembang made.

What a cultural entwined we have here...

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23rd May 2010, 01:37 PM	#2
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Thanks Dave, pak Ganja and bro Alam for those inputs. I asked because two things: 1) Normally lampung hilts have long, curved beaks. 2) The hilt picture I posted have similar motives to pak Ganja's ivory hilt motives. I didn't doubt it will be from Lampung, but was the curves on the posted hilt's body is normal for it's kind? I really know very little about lampung hilts, so any inputs from all of you are really helpful...

23rd May 2010, 03:27 PM	#5
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Hi Detlef, Thanks for those beautiful hilts pics! i think it bears similarities to your hilt no 1 (the first pix), especially the carving motives. Is that first pix hilt was a true blue lampung hilt? Could u post the picture of the first one, this time from the back of the hilt? Sorry for the inconveniences...

24th May 2010, 05:45 AM	#7
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Oh is it... No wonder I can still recall that kinatah works. However in that recent post about this keris, the hilt was not really featured, so this is the first close-up isn't it? Nice hilt. Also now I learned that this kind of hilt is not necessarily means it's a palembang made. What a cultural entwined we have here...