Celebes Kobiti and katandu swords

Mytribalworld · 24th June 2007, 07:34 AM

Some years ago I did some recearch to the rare Celebes " Kobiti" swords.
Interesting I think because they seem to have " just walked away" from the bronze age but survived into the 19th century.
I asked many museum curators about them but there are not many found in museum collections.The museum in Rotterdam has the two hilts which are pictured in " Art in the Central Celebes" by Walter Kaudern.I was allowed to see them in person during a visit of the depots there.
In the design there's maybe a kind of " missing link" to Timorese sword hilts , the Celebes Sumara and other swords.

This type swords seem to be used by priest during ceremonies in relation with headhunting.The captured skull is touched with this sword and even childs joining the magic power of the skull by touching the sword.
Kobiti sword can have iron blades or blades made of bamboo.

The hilts of Rotterdam are found in the roof of a temple in Celebes.
I know the museum in Helsinki also has two complete related swords.(see pics)
they are described as "Katandu" swords.

In the book of Heger's " Alte Metaltrommeln" I found plates of enourmous old bronze age drums.If you look good you see that the motif used is quite the same as the design of the sword hilts from Kaudern.
And then of course the question: did they made the hilt after seeing the design of the drum or did the design survived ages till the 19th century?

Information on such swords is scarce so I gladly want to list this thread.
Maybe someone has also found ever information about them?

sources:

Heger- Alte Metaltrommeln
Adriani en Kruyt- De baree spreekende Toradja's van midden Celebes.
Walter kaudern-Art in Central celebes
Verslag van den toestand van het museum voor land en volkenkunde en martiem museum '' Prins Hendrik" te Rotterdam 1921.

24th June 2007, 07:34 AM	#1
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	Celebes Kobiti and katandu swords Some years ago I did some recearch to the rare Celebes " Kobiti" swords. Interesting I think because they seem to have " just walked away" from the bronze age but survived into the 19th century. I asked many museum curators about them but there are not many found in museum collections.The museum in Rotterdam has the two hilts which are pictured in " Art in the Central Celebes" by Walter Kaudern.I was allowed to see them in person during a visit of the depots there. In the design there's maybe a kind of " missing link" to Timorese sword hilts , the Celebes Sumara and other swords. This type swords seem to be used by priest during ceremonies in relation with headhunting.The captured skull is touched with this sword and even childs joining the magic power of the skull by touching the sword. Kobiti sword can have iron blades or blades made of bamboo. The hilts of Rotterdam are found in the roof of a temple in Celebes. I know the museum in Helsinki also has two complete related swords.(see pics) they are described as "Katandu" swords. In the book of Heger's " Alte Metaltrommeln" I found plates of enourmous old bronze age drums.If you look good you see that the motif used is quite the same as the design of the sword hilts from Kaudern. And then of course the question: did they made the hilt after seeing the design of the drum or did the design survived ages till the 19th century? Information on such swords is scarce so I gladly want to list this thread. Maybe someone has also found ever information about them? sources: Heger- Alte Metaltrommeln Adriani en Kruyt- De baree spreekende Toradja's van midden Celebes. Walter kaudern-Art in Central celebes Verslag van den toestand van het museum voor land en volkenkunde en martiem museum '' Prins Hendrik" te Rotterdam 1921. Attached Images