Request for comments and insights on a Keris Madura

David · 2nd November 2023, 05:41 PM

Hi Paul. I have never seen this pamor before, but some variation of it may indeed be old and "legit". But yes, this does appear to me a current era keris. Kagok is a name that is applied to a certain form of Javanese ladrang (formal) wrongko. This is indeed a formal variety of Madurese wrongko, but i have not seen the name applied to Madurese wrongko yet. Though it is quite possibly correct. Interestingly the word seems to mean "clumsy" (Javanese) or "awkward" (Sundanese).

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2nd November 2023, 05:41 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Hi Paul. I have never seen this pamor before, but some variation of it may indeed be old and "legit". But yes, this does appear to me a current era keris. Kagok is a name that is applied to a certain form of Javanese ladrang (formal) wrongko. This is indeed a formal variety of Madurese wrongko, but i have not seen the name applied to Madurese wrongko yet. Though it is quite possibly correct. Interestingly the word seems to mean "clumsy" (Javanese) or "awkward" (Sundanese).