help IDing these for a friend

[mross]

Hi all,
Can anybody help id'ing these for a friend on another list? Here was what was said about them.
"Attached are two photos of the two daggers. They measure ~ 8.3" for the blade and are ~ 13.5" overall. The top blade is in lesser condition but does seem to show traces of silver on the handle. On the handles photo I was trying to show the forging seam on the lower blade's handle. Surprise, surprise, on the photo a pattern shows up quite clearly, a surprise to me since I had not noticed this when examining the blade in-hand.

Neither blade is "sharp" so that makes me believe they are strickly a thrusting weapon (like a spear). "

Thanks.