Need help with Georgian translation

RSWORD · 21st May 2005, 01:50 AM

I believe the two following inscriptions are in Georgian. Can anyone make them out? Many thanks in advance.

RSWORD · 22nd May 2005, 03:20 PM

I wanted to bump up. I thought we might have a couple of folks that might could translate.

Rivkin · 23rd May 2005, 01:48 AM

The signature is almost incomprehensible, so I had to ask around. Something like Dato Tikia S... (looks like it's all a name)

Rivkin · 23rd May 2005, 03:39 PM

No one really knows that the signature is, but the latest version is:

"To Tirkia, so he would grow" - it seems to explain all the letters (Tirkia Dato was leaving unexplained sr in the middle).

Tirkia sounds to me like Abkhaz/Apsua name, basically more of a circassian than georgian. Would really interesting to see the niello...

RSWORD · 24th May 2005, 02:52 AM

Rivkin

Thank you for the translation assistance thusfar. The niello work is quite interesting with some unusual "motifs". Here are two pics of said motifs on the hilt.

Rivkin · 24th May 2005, 02:55 AM

Oh. It seems that the inscription suggests that it was something like a sweet sixteen gift to Tirkia, so he would grow with a sword. The motiff is puzzling.

One more thing - a short google searched revealed that Tirkia is actually a megrel name.

RSWORD · 24th May 2005, 01:30 PM

The motifs are quite unusual. They seem to be Chinese inspired as they are matches for the Chinese "gold coin" motif. Based on your google search what ethnicity are the Megrels?

Jacob · 24th May 2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RSWORD

...what ethnicity are the Megrels?

Megrels, or Mingrels, inhabitants of Mingrelia (Egrisi), north
western part of Georgia.

21st May 2005, 01:50 AM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Need help with Georgian translation I believe the two following inscriptions are in Georgian. Can anyone make them out? Many thanks in advance. Attached Images

24th May 2005, 02:52 AM	#5
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Rivkin Thank you for the translation assistance thusfar. The niello work is quite interesting with some unusual "motifs". Here are two pics of said motifs on the hilt. Attached Images

22nd May 2005, 03:20 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	I wanted to bump up. I thought we might have a couple of folks that might could translate.

23rd May 2005, 01:48 AM	#3
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	The signature is almost incomprehensible, so I had to ask around. Something like Dato Tikia S... (looks like it's all a name)

23rd May 2005, 03:39 PM	#4
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	No one really knows that the signature is, but the latest version is: "To Tirkia, so he would grow" - it seems to explain all the letters (Tirkia Dato was leaving unexplained sr in the middle). Tirkia sounds to me like Abkhaz/Apsua name, basically more of a circassian than georgian. Would really interesting to see the niello...

24th May 2005, 02:55 AM	#6
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Oh. It seems that the inscription suggests that it was something like a sweet sixteen gift to Tirkia, so he would grow with a sword. The motiff is puzzling. One more thing - a short google searched revealed that Tirkia is actually a megrel name.

24th May 2005, 01:30 PM	#7
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	The motifs are quite unusual. They seem to be Chinese inspired as they are matches for the Chinese "gold coin" motif. Based on your google search what ethnicity are the Megrels?