Could we have an O/T section for associated ethnographia?

Atlantia · 9th April 2009, 08:00 PM

Thats it really!
I was wondering if anyone else would be in favour of having a place fto discuss and share other parts of our collections?
I know what you're thinking, I'd fill it with threads about bowls!

Regards
Gene

Mark · 10th April 2009, 05:13 PM

Just put a weapon next to it when you take the pictures.

This would be up to Lee, of course.

Jim McDougall · 10th April 2009, 11:30 PM

Hi Gene,
Definitely an excellent note, and something that has often come up as certain items posted strained the perameters of our scope of discussions.
I think Mark's suggestion is very well placed, and personally I like items shown in groupings as they add great perspective.

In my opinion, elements of ethnographic arms and armour in addition to just the edged weapons are certainly pertinant to our discussions in degree. As far as other items of material culture, I think they apply often in the sense of displaying influences in motif or decoration, and many items are sometimes the source of these. In this regard, actually there are so many instances its hard to think of where to begin.

Sometimes those bowls have linear motif or decorative designs that can be found on that of weapons, and cultural provenance and period can be associated...not always..but sometimes. You have to look for clues everywhere. Recently it was shown that coins can often be excellent sources for clues to marks and stamps on weapons, as these were often employed collectively in the official capacities in local regimes.
I once identified a stamp in the blade of an Afghan weapon as the Mosque at Mazir i Sharif using compared stamps in period coinage.

Best regards,
Jim

Atlantia · 19th April 2009, 07:43 PM

Hi Mark & Jim,
Thank you both, and sorry its taken so long to reply. A sudden forced Huge clearout and re-decorating have taken all of my spare time recently.

Collecting ethnographia can be rather daunting. I'm sure many members, while focusing on weapons find themselves being drawn to a huge variety of loosely associated items outside of their 'comfort zone' of knowledge.

My personal taste is often for Bronze, and luckily for me, when I've needed to ask a question, everyone here has been very tollerant of my bowls etc, for which I am extremely greatful.

Regards
Gene

Sajen · 19th April 2009, 07:55 PM

I only can support this idea. We all have I think so other ethnographica in our collections then ethnographic weapons.
sajen

Gavin Nugent · 19th April 2009, 08:20 PM

I'd say yes too but I am not footing the bill to run this site though.

There are certainly a good many things worth discussing if this was to happen and it would be sure to enlighten us all on the cultures who had these weapons in their possession originally.

Gav

graeme gt · 19th April 2009, 10:45 PM

Great idea .

Rick · 19th April 2009, 10:57 PM

One more forum to moderate ......

Atlantia · 19th April 2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

One more forum to moderate ......

But the Keris forum is so well behaved Rick

Seriously though, we all appreciate what the Mod team does, and how well this site is run.
A general ethnographia forum would take the O/T threads out of the other two areas.

I know I'm not paying the bills and I'm volunteering you guys for more work.

Thanks

Gene

Rick · 20th April 2009, 03:42 AM

Hi Gene,

This matter really is not mine to decide .

Really glad you love it here .

But ...
We all have lives mate, have mercy .

Bill M · 20th April 2009, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

Just put a weapon next to it when you take the pictures.

What an underhanded idea! No decent person could ever sink so low as to do this.....

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=tsavo

colin henshaw · 20th April 2009, 08:44 PM

A good idea - if its possible...

9th April 2009, 08:00 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Could we have an O/T section for associated ethnographia? Thats it really! I was wondering if anyone else would be in favour of having a place fto discuss and share other parts of our collections? I know what you're thinking, I'd fill it with threads about bowls! Regards Gene

19th April 2009, 07:43 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Mark & Jim, Thank you both, and sorry its taken so long to reply. A sudden forced Huge clearout and re-decorating have taken all of my spare time recently. Collecting ethnographia can be rather daunting. I'm sure many members, while focusing on weapons find themselves being drawn to a huge variety of loosely associated items outside of their 'comfort zone' of knowledge. My personal taste is often for Bronze, and luckily for me, when I've needed to ask a question, everyone here has been very tollerant of my bowls etc, for which I am extremely greatful. Regards Gene Last edited by Atlantia; 19th April 2009 at 09:20 PM.

19th April 2009, 08:20 PM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I say yes too I'd say yes too but I am not footing the bill to run this site though. There are certainly a good many things worth discussing if this was to happen and it would be sure to enlighten us all on the cultures who had these weapons in their possession originally. Gav

10th April 2009, 05:13 PM	#2
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Just put a weapon next to it when you take the pictures. This would be up to Lee, of course.

10th April 2009, 11:30 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,946	Hi Gene, Definitely an excellent note, and something that has often come up as certain items posted strained the perameters of our scope of discussions. I think Mark's suggestion is very well placed, and personally I like items shown in groupings as they add great perspective. In my opinion, elements of ethnographic arms and armour in addition to just the edged weapons are certainly pertinant to our discussions in degree. As far as other items of material culture, I think they apply often in the sense of displaying influences in motif or decoration, and many items are sometimes the source of these. In this regard, actually there are so many instances its hard to think of where to begin. Sometimes those bowls have linear motif or decorative designs that can be found on that of weapons, and cultural provenance and period can be associated...not always..but sometimes. You have to look for clues everywhere. Recently it was shown that coins can often be excellent sources for clues to marks and stamps on weapons, as these were often employed collectively in the official capacities in local regimes. I once identified a stamp in the blade of an Afghan weapon as the Mosque at Mazir i Sharif using compared stamps in period coinage. Best regards, Jim

19th April 2009, 07:55 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	I only can support this idea. We all have I think so other ethnographica in our collections then ethnographic weapons. sajen

19th April 2009, 10:45 PM	#7
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Great idea .

19th April 2009, 10:57 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	One more forum to moderate ......

20th April 2009, 03:42 AM	#10
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi Gene, This matter really is not mine to decide . Really glad you love it here . But ... We all have lives mate, have mercy .

20th April 2009, 08:44 PM	#12
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	A good idea - if its possible...