Wedding Nimcha....with functional blade?

katana · 12th February 2007, 03:07 PM

Followed this on eBay....the blade on this example is 1/4" (6-7 mm) at its thickess point. The handle decoration seems unusual and certainly seems to have age. The curveture is not as acute as most 'Wedding Nimcha's' i have seen. Could this be a true 'functional' Nimcha 'dagger' .....
These were discussed in a previous thread.....I am not convinced that this form of dagger has a purely 'ceremonial' function.....Comments gratefully recieved...thankyou

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=015

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...wedding+nimcha

tom hyle · 12th February 2007, 06:04 PM

Nice. I try to think of these as a form of flyssa, more than nimcha, which they are often called. Are the patterns carved into the handle, or inlaid?

katana · 12th February 2007, 06:09 PM

Hi Tom.....unfortunately its not mine.....didn't bid enough

I believe the decoration is inlaid. I really regret not bidding more....never mind...

ward · 12th February 2007, 07:55 PM

decoration is wire overlaid soldered to piece tourist piece

katana · 14th February 2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward

decoration is wire overlaid soldered to piece tourist piece

Hi Ward,
is this a common type of 'tourist' piece, I have never seen one before ( with this type of decoration). One of the characteristics (stated in another thread , mentioned above) is the fact that the 'tourist' type had very thin blades, around 2mm. This particular one has a 1/4" ..approx. 6mm blade...a functional thickness

Admittedly thickness is no indication of the quality of the blade.

ward · 14th February 2007, 01:53 PM

Yes That decoration is extreamly common on tourist pieces. It is very easy to craft and can be done with a minimum of tools.. blade thickness can be a indication but a overview of the piece is usually needed I uploaded a koran case from magrib forget about the enamel work but if you look at wire same type of work.

katana · 15th February 2007, 01:53 PM

Thanks Ward,
looks like I saved money....

I believe that the 'Wedding Nimcha' evolved from a functional form. I have one that has a 'good' blade, with a sharp cutting edge and a false edge at the tip, and was assured by the seller that this was a WW1 'bring back'. Whether or not this is a 'quality' ceremonial piece or 'functional' seems to be a point of view. It seems there is no hard evidence about the evolution of these knives.

When I saw this example with a 6-7 mm thick spine and 'unusual' (to me) decoration, I thought I had found the 'missing link'.....possible proof of the 'functional' Wedding Nimcha ......ah well. Thankyou for the information... and (in a way) a reminder that a thicker blade is just 'more metal' and not necessarily 'more functional' ........

12th February 2007, 03:07 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Wedding Nimcha....with functional blade? Followed this on eBay....the blade on this example is 1/4" (6-7 mm) at its thickess point. The handle decoration seems unusual and certainly seems to have age. The curveture is not as acute as most 'Wedding Nimcha's' i have seen. Could this be a true 'functional' Nimcha 'dagger' ..... These were discussed in a previous thread.....I am not convinced that this form of dagger has a purely 'ceremonial' function.....Comments gratefully recieved...thankyou http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=015 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...wedding+nimcha Attached Images Last edited by katana; 12th February 2007 at 06:00 PM.

14th February 2007, 01:53 PM	#6
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Yes That decoration is extreamly common on tourist pieces. It is very easy to craft and can be done with a minimum of tools.. blade thickness can be a indication but a overview of the piece is usually needed I uploaded a koran case from magrib forget about the enamel work but if you look at wire same type of work. Attached Images

12th February 2007, 06:04 PM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Nice. I try to think of these as a form of flyssa, more than nimcha, which they are often called. Are the patterns carved into the handle, or inlaid?

12th February 2007, 06:09 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Tom.....unfortunately its not mine.....didn't bid enough I believe the decoration is inlaid. I really regret not bidding more....never mind...

12th February 2007, 07:55 PM	#4
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	decoration is wire overlaid soldered to piece tourist piece

15th February 2007, 01:53 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Thanks Ward, looks like I saved money.... I believe that the 'Wedding Nimcha' evolved from a functional form. I have one that has a 'good' blade, with a sharp cutting edge and a false edge at the tip, and was assured by the seller that this was a WW1 'bring back'. Whether or not this is a 'quality' ceremonial piece or 'functional' seems to be a point of view. It seems there is no hard evidence about the evolution of these knives. When I saw this example with a 6-7 mm thick spine and 'unusual' (to me) decoration, I thought I had found the 'missing link'.....possible proof of the 'functional' Wedding Nimcha ......ah well. Thankyou for the information... and (in a way) a reminder that a thicker blade is just 'more metal' and not necessarily 'more functional' ........