"Turkish Dagger" ?

Southerner · 22nd January 2007, 02:26 AM

This is a family heirloom found on the battle fields in the midle east somewhere by my Grandmothers half brother. He gave it to my grandfather . When my grandmother died my father kept it now it is in my possesion.
What I know of it very little. My father told me his uncle picked it up off a battle field and then had the engineers make a brass sheath for it. I know I have pictures of my great Uncles showing Turkish POW's so it could well be Turkish but it also looks Arabic there are some small bits of decoration missing and a large bit of white ivory missing. This bit I want to address and fill with something akin to Ivory as it is causing the rest of the handle to suffer. I do not want to hide the repair just save the rest from falling to pices, on the other hand I do not want it to stand out like a sore thumb like a piece of white plastic.
Any one have any idea of what I can use? To me it is not a valuble item cash wise but it is personaly and so I do not want it to deteriorate further.

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Southerner

It has traveled a bit from its homeland as it now resides in the Falkland Islands

Battara · 22nd January 2007, 11:51 PM

It looks Lebanese to me (which was at one time under the Ottoman empire) instead of Turkish.

Jeff D · 23rd January 2007, 12:02 AM

Hi Southerner,

Check out these links http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=804

http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=1957

Hope this helps
Jeff

Southerner · 23rd January 2007, 12:38 AM

Thankyou

They certainly match the style ther is a mix of both in the decoration of the handle on mine. It certainly is in the right neigbourhood as I know my relative was in Egypt for some of the first world war as I have pictures he took whilst there. would anyone know what "bone" and what part of it would have been used in the handle? Would there have been any form of preserving/treatment used prior to use?

Sorry I am asking so many questions I just want to make sure it keeps getting handed down in the family all in one piece.

Southerner

I have managed one of the pictures to make it easier for all to see.

ALEX · 23rd January 2007, 04:26 PM

Looks very Syrian.

Southerner · 18th May 2007, 05:37 AM

Been away for a while I am still looking for a way to repair the damage to the handle, was hoping some one in the know on restoration would have given me a few pointers. Is there no one who can help stop this old knife deteriorating further? Please

Southerner

Jeff D · 18th May 2007, 06:03 AM

Hi Southerner;

That is simply a great piece with a great history. Personally, I would leave it alone.

All the Best
Jeff

22nd January 2007, 02:26 AM	#1
Southerner Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stanley Falkland Islands Posts: 4	"Turkish Dagger" ? This is a family heirloom found on the battle fields in the midle east somewhere by my Grandmothers half brother. He gave it to my grandfather . When my grandmother died my father kept it now it is in my possesion. What I know of it very little. My father told me his uncle picked it up off a battle field and then had the engineers make a brass sheath for it. I know I have pictures of my great Uncles showing Turkish POW's so it could well be Turkish but it also looks Arabic there are some small bits of decoration missing and a large bit of white ivory missing. This bit I want to address and fill with something akin to Ivory as it is causing the rest of the handle to suffer. I do not want to hide the repair just save the rest from falling to pices, on the other hand I do not want it to stand out like a sore thumb like a piece of white plastic. Any one have any idea of what I can use? To me it is not a valuble item cash wise but it is personaly and so I do not want it to deteriorate further. http://homepage.mac.com/cool_dude_na...toAlbum17.html Southerner It has traveled a bit from its homeland as it now resides in the Falkland Islands

23rd January 2007, 12:38 AM	#4
Southerner Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stanley Falkland Islands Posts: 4	Thankyou They certainly match the style ther is a mix of both in the decoration of the handle on mine. It certainly is in the right neigbourhood as I know my relative was in Egypt for some of the first world war as I have pictures he took whilst there. would anyone know what "bone" and what part of it would have been used in the handle? Would there have been any form of preserving/treatment used prior to use? Sorry I am asking so many questions I just want to make sure it keeps getting handed down in the family all in one piece. Southerner I have managed one of the pictures to make it easier for all to see. Attached Images Last edited by Southerner; 23rd January 2007 at 05:24 AM. Reason: Add Picture

22nd January 2007, 11:51 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	It looks Lebanese to me (which was at one time under the Ottoman empire) instead of Turkish.

23rd January 2007, 12:02 AM	#3
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Southerner, Check out these links http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=804 http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=1957 Hope this helps Jeff

23rd January 2007, 04:26 PM	#5
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Looks very Syrian.

18th May 2007, 05:37 AM	#6
Southerner Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Stanley Falkland Islands Posts: 4	Been away for a while I am still looking for a way to repair the damage to the handle, was hoping some one in the know on restoration would have given me a few pointers. Is there no one who can help stop this old knife deteriorating further? Please Southerner

18th May 2007, 06:03 AM	#7
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Southerner; That is simply a great piece with a great history. Personally, I would leave it alone. All the Best Jeff