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Old 30th December 2006, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default Amulets on Mandau's

Does anyone have amulets on their mandau's like to see pics off them


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Old 31st December 2006, 08:13 PM   #2
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Hello Ben,

Great topic!

Here's a one from my Mandau: 2 conch shells, a fang, and a tooth.
(Sorry, will try to post a better pic...)

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Old 31st December 2006, 10:51 PM   #3
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Hi Kai nice amulet are you the only one here on the forum that have an amulet on his mandau



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Old 2nd January 2007, 01:04 PM   #4
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Ben, you already know them, but for the other forum members.

some from my collection. more knots than amulets. But better than nothing.

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Old 2nd January 2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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Hi Willem that silver hook is very nice is that metal that carved round circle


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Old 2nd January 2007, 05:13 PM   #6
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Yes, it is a metal disc.
one side flat, the other side engraves with floral motifs.
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Old 2nd January 2007, 08:50 PM   #7
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THE 3 DISKS ON THE LAST PICTURES ARE INTERESTING ONE IS THE BIG END OF A CONE SHELL, THE OTHER APPEARS TO BE A PEARL OYSTER DISK MARKED TO RESEMBLE THE CONE SHELL DISK. THE METAL DISK IS IN THE SHAPE OF ONE OF THE DAYAK TATOOS DENOTING THE TAKEING OF A HEAD. THE SMALL WOODEN MAN WOULD BE SOME SORT OF FETISH ALSO AS THERE WERE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT KINDS FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROTECTION I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GIVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON IT. I DON'T HAVE MANY GOOD FETISH IN MY COLLECTION AND NO PICTURES OF THE ONES I DO HAVE. SO WILL POST A FEW PICTURES OF ONES I HAVE IN MY PHOTO ARCHIVES. ONE IS SIMULAR TO THE VERY NICE ONE WITH HORNBILL THAT STARTED THIS POST.
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Old 2nd January 2007, 10:02 PM   #8
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A FEW MORE !

THESE OFTEN SERVE THE PURPOSE OF DECORATION, CARRYING STRAP AS WELL AS HAVING TAILSMANIC PROTECTIVE POWERS AND MAY IDENTIFY THE TRIBE OR GROUP. OFTEN A SEA BEAN,SHELL DISK,HORNBILL IVORY OR PIECE OF ANTLER SERVE AS THE TOGGLE TO FASTEN THE STRAP AS WELL AS PERHAPS HAVING TAILSMANIC POWER OR BEING A SIGN OF RANK OR WEALTH.
I THINK DAYAK ART INCORPORATES TAILSMANIC POWERS, TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION ,PRIDE OF WORKMANSHIP AND DECORATION IN ALL ITS FORMS FROM BASKETS,HATS,TOOLS, FABRICS TO BLADES. ALL THE DESIGNS HAVE THEIR MEANINGS AS WELL AS BEING VERY PRETTY.

I HOPE THESE PICTURES ARE NOT FROM ANYONES PRIVATE STOCK AS I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I GOT THE REFRENCES FROM.
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Old 2nd January 2007, 11:43 PM   #9
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Hi Vandoo that are nice ones the tassels are more used as carrying band


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Old 9th January 2007, 12:09 PM   #10
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Another one from my collection. not a talisman but a knot that is on a pre 1900's mandau from Koetei/Kutai.
Very weird one, it is made of stone , 1 cms thick / approx 7,5 cms diameter and quite heavy.

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Old 10th January 2007, 04:37 AM   #11
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Hi Willem these knots are also Talisman objects very nice one you have

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Old 11th September 2007, 01:16 PM   #12
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Default new talisman/amulet

Keeping the thread alive !

My most recent acquired amulet / I asume a knot from a mandau carrying band.
A stylistic deer IMHO.
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Old 11th September 2007, 04:20 PM   #13
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A INTERESTING TAILSMAN IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN MADE FROM THE BOTTOM SECTION OF A SKULL ,TO THE BACK WHERE THE SPINAL COLUM CONNECTS. SOME OF THE SKULLS FEATURES WERE USED AS THEY ARE AND NOT MODIFIED MUCH. THE SHAPE THEY CARVED PERHAPS INDICATES ITS FROM A DEER SKULL OF COURSE PIG SKULLS WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE IN THE AREA. IT COULD BE A HUNTING TROPHY AS WELL AS A TAILSMAN TO BRING GOOD LUCK ON FUTURE HUNTS.
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Old 1st July 2017, 12:40 PM   #14
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I found this picture on the web.
It is relatively recent picture of a mandau with amulets from Kalimantan Barat / west kalimantan.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 03:17 PM   #15
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Thanks for posting Willem. Looks nice and lots of balast. :-)

This is one of the beltbuckles on a mandau from South Borneo in my private collection. Simple, but very interesting.......
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Old 2nd July 2017, 03:32 PM   #16
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Hi Maurice,

Thanks for posting.
Is it bone ? or antler ?

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Old 2nd July 2017, 03:39 PM   #17
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Quote:
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Thanks for posting Willem. Looks nice and lots of balast. :-)

This is one of the beltbuckles on a mandau from South Borneo in my private collection. Simple, but very interesting.......
Thank you for posting Maurice, it's a bone piece, very interesting indeed!

Here are two of my ones. Both are the close knobs for the carrying strip. Someone know the nut?

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Old 2nd July 2017, 03:50 PM   #18
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This mandau I bought last year.
It came with the somewhat unusual ropes with very small rattan baskets.
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Old 2nd July 2017, 06:58 PM   #19
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Hi Maurice,

Thanks for posting.
Is it bone ? or antler ?

Best regards,
Willem

Hi Willem,

A piece of a human skull it is.

Nice find your mandau!

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Old 2nd July 2017, 07:00 PM   #20
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Someone know the nut?
Hi Detlef,

Don't know which nut it is, but have seen it before used as belt buckle.

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Old 14th January 2019, 05:36 PM   #21
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Here is a very old Mandau toggle/amulet.
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