WOW!!!! (moro kris)

Flavio · 15th July 2006, 02:24 PM

Hello, this Moro (i think Sulu) Kris is arrived some days ago but only today i have found time to clean and etched it and this is the result: a BEAUTIFUL "like a Leopard fur" inner part of blade with a very nice lamination!!!

What do you think? I like vinegard more than wine.... no, not more than wine, but i love it

VANDOO · 15th July 2006, 05:34 PM

VERY NICE

I LIKE THE PATTERN IN THE BLADE JUST FOR FUN I WILL CALL IT MORO WOOTZ

THE SCABBARD IS INTERESTING AS IT HAS THE INLAYED LIME IN THE CARVINGS AS OFTEN SEEN ON OCEANIC CLUBS, MASKS, ECT. HOW ABOUT A PICTURE OF THE CARVING AT THE TOP IT LOOKS VERY NICE ALSO. THE CLOTH ON THE SCABBARD INTERESTING, I AM NOT SURE WHAT SIGNIFICENCE IT HAS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT IN PREVIOUS POSTS AND CAME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSSIBILITYS. A KERIS CAN SOMETIMES BE IDENTIFIED BY TRIBE OR PERIOD BY LOOKING AT SUCH CLOTH IF YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEGE BUT COULD ALSO JUST BE A PEICE THE OWNER LIKED FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER. CONGRADULATIONS ON A NICE KRIS NOW GIVE IT A RUB DOWN WITH SOME KERIS OIL TO REMOVE THE VINEGAR SMELL OTHERWISE YOUR HOUSE MAY BEGIN TO SMELL LIKE A PICKLE FACTORY

Flavio · 15th July 2006, 06:09 PM

Thank you very much Vandoo. Here is a picture of the top part of the scabbard with a very nice carving. It's great if someone could tell me more about tribe or age just looking at the cloth, and yes, the next time maybe i will try with some lemon juice

the smell is too far better

Battara · 15th July 2006, 09:16 PM

By the carving at the top and the thinness of the rattan strips, I would guess WWII or later. Is the ganga separate or incised lines?

Flavio · 15th July 2006, 10:16 PM

Hello Battara, thank you. No, the ganja isn't separate.

VANDOO · 15th July 2006, 11:24 PM

THE WOOD CARVING ON THE SCABBARD IS ESPECIALLY WELL DONE AND WAS INFILLED AT THE TOP AS WELL AS AT THE BOTTOM. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHERE OR WHEN THIS LIME INFILL WAS USED OR DO THEY RECOGNIZE THE CARVING STYLE OR PATTERN. THE BLADE IS ALL HAND FORGED AND DOSENT HAVE THE SHARP CURVES OF THOSE USING STOCK REMOVAL. IT IS INTERESTING THAT THEY JUST CUT A SIMPLE GROVE INSTEAD OF THE DEEP CUT PATTERN REFERED TO AS A ARROWHEAD THIS DESIGN LOOKS MORE LIKE A PUNAL BLADE. THEY WERE STILL MAKEING GOOD TRADITIONAL FORGED BLADES DURING AND SHORTLY AFTER WW2. THE RED COLOR FABRIC IS OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH WEAPONS USED DURING THE PHILIPPINE INSURECTION (I WOULD HAVE USED KAPUTHAIN BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT CORRECTLY SO USE THE OTHER TERM TO AVOID CONFUSION.) I AM JUST GOING FROM MEMORY NOT FROM REFRENCES AND CAN'T VOUCH FOR MY MEMORY MUCH THESE DAYS

NICE SWORD WILL IT SHAVE HAIR?

Flavio · 16th July 2006, 10:37 AM

Hello Vandoo, sorry for my ignorance in philippino history, but could you give some dates for philippino insurection? and against who was the insurection? Spanish?

Spunjer · 16th July 2006, 01:23 PM

not a very accurate gauge but will give you a rough draft of the insurrection. in a roundabout way, it's kinda similar to what's going on right now.

http://www.bakbakan.net/junglep.html

http://www.bakbakan.net/swishkb.html

nice kris, btw. can't remember who it was, but there was someone here that has a similar kris to yours with pretty much the same pattern.

Flavio · 16th July 2006, 02:00 PM

Thank you very much Spunjer, to help me to reduce my ignorance

15th July 2006, 02:24 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	WOW!!!! (moro kris) Hello, this Moro (i think Sulu) Kris is arrived some days ago but only today i have found time to clean and etched it and this is the result: a BEAUTIFUL "like a Leopard fur" inner part of blade with a very nice lamination!!! What do you think? I like vinegard more than wine.... no, not more than wine, but i love it Attached Images

15th July 2006, 06:09 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much Vandoo. Here is a picture of the top part of the scabbard with a very nice carving. It's great if someone could tell me more about tribe or age just looking at the cloth, and yes, the next time maybe i will try with some lemon juice the smell is too far better Attached Images

15th July 2006, 05:34 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VERY NICE I LIKE THE PATTERN IN THE BLADE JUST FOR FUN I WILL CALL IT MORO WOOTZ THE SCABBARD IS INTERESTING AS IT HAS THE INLAYED LIME IN THE CARVINGS AS OFTEN SEEN ON OCEANIC CLUBS, MASKS, ECT. HOW ABOUT A PICTURE OF THE CARVING AT THE TOP IT LOOKS VERY NICE ALSO. THE CLOTH ON THE SCABBARD INTERESTING, I AM NOT SURE WHAT SIGNIFICENCE IT HAS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT IN PREVIOUS POSTS AND CAME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSSIBILITYS. A KERIS CAN SOMETIMES BE IDENTIFIED BY TRIBE OR PERIOD BY LOOKING AT SUCH CLOTH IF YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEGE BUT COULD ALSO JUST BE A PEICE THE OWNER LIKED FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER. CONGRADULATIONS ON A NICE KRIS NOW GIVE IT A RUB DOWN WITH SOME KERIS OIL TO REMOVE THE VINEGAR SMELL OTHERWISE YOUR HOUSE MAY BEGIN TO SMELL LIKE A PICKLE FACTORY

15th July 2006, 09:16 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	By the carving at the top and the thinness of the rattan strips, I would guess WWII or later. Is the ganga separate or incised lines?

15th July 2006, 10:16 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Battara, thank you. No, the ganja isn't separate.

15th July 2006, 11:24 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE WOOD CARVING ON THE SCABBARD IS ESPECIALLY WELL DONE AND WAS INFILLED AT THE TOP AS WELL AS AT THE BOTTOM. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHERE OR WHEN THIS LIME INFILL WAS USED OR DO THEY RECOGNIZE THE CARVING STYLE OR PATTERN. THE BLADE IS ALL HAND FORGED AND DOSENT HAVE THE SHARP CURVES OF THOSE USING STOCK REMOVAL. IT IS INTERESTING THAT THEY JUST CUT A SIMPLE GROVE INSTEAD OF THE DEEP CUT PATTERN REFERED TO AS A ARROWHEAD THIS DESIGN LOOKS MORE LIKE A PUNAL BLADE. THEY WERE STILL MAKEING GOOD TRADITIONAL FORGED BLADES DURING AND SHORTLY AFTER WW2. THE RED COLOR FABRIC IS OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH WEAPONS USED DURING THE PHILIPPINE INSURECTION (I WOULD HAVE USED KAPUTHAIN BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT CORRECTLY SO USE THE OTHER TERM TO AVOID CONFUSION.) I AM JUST GOING FROM MEMORY NOT FROM REFRENCES AND CAN'T VOUCH FOR MY MEMORY MUCH THESE DAYS NICE SWORD WILL IT SHAVE HAIR?

16th July 2006, 10:37 AM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Vandoo, sorry for my ignorance in philippino history, but could you give some dates for philippino insurection? and against who was the insurection? Spanish?

16th July 2006, 01:23 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	not a very accurate gauge but will give you a rough draft of the insurrection. in a roundabout way, it's kinda similar to what's going on right now. http://www.bakbakan.net/junglep.html http://www.bakbakan.net/swishkb.html nice kris, btw. can't remember who it was, but there was someone here that has a similar kris to yours with pretty much the same pattern.

16th July 2006, 02:00 PM	#9
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much Spunjer, to help me to reduce my ignorance