Knobkerrie or Not?

Lew · 11th June 2006, 12:28 AM

Hi All

This auction just ended. What is it? My first impression was that it is African probably from the Congo the circle like depressions remind me of Chokwe designs on my axe.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-1920s-AF...QQcmdZViewItem

Lew

ariel · 11th June 2006, 05:56 PM

It is a " two for the price of one" implement from Sears: " head basher and potato masher"

Mother's day sale....

Tim Simmons · 11th June 2006, 07:57 PM

I agree with you Lew, I feel sure it is not a knobkerrie or South African. You know I like sticks. Once you get one you cant stop. A bit like crisps or chips as you call them, wrong chips go with ----

Mapico1 · 11th June 2006, 08:08 PM

Hi Lew,I think it is a Tsjokwé club! Looks like the one I listed with the nails.

Lew · 14th June 2006, 04:55 AM

Hi All

The club arrived today. It's pretty heavy and solid made of dense tropical wood. Let me know what you think?

Lew

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2006, 08:13 AM

Its a beauty, love the polka dots. Simple and elegant, I bet it is very nice to fondle

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Lew · 14th June 2006, 01:41 PM

Tim

Yes the club has wonderful balance and it comes with povidence. It was was owned by Raymond Brooks a copper miner from Rhodesia.

Mufulira is situated in the Copperbelt of Zambia, and it is the largest underground copper mine in Africa. The Copperbelt is the most concentrated copper-producing area in the world, although fifty years ago it was wild and trackless. Now in an area thirty miles wide and seventy miles long there are eight producing mines, namely Mufulira, Rokana, Chingola, Bwana Mkubwa, Chambishi, Chibuluma, Konkola and Luanshya.

Mufulira's history began in June 1925 when two prospectors named Moir and Bell were sent by Mr. Raymond Brooks, who was then in charge of all the prospecting for two major companies, to work up the west side of the Kafue River to the Congo Border and then come back down it again along the other bank. They found nothing on the way up but when coming back down they camped by a stream called the Mufulira, and there they found some peat moss stained with malachite. They sent some of this moss to Mr. Brooks and a short time later they discovered an outcrop, which also showed meager copper-carbonate stain. A sample of this was also sent to Brook, but unfortunately it did not amount to very much. Intact it was not until five years later in 1928 that this outcrop was more thoroughly investigated by geologists and the vast riches of Mufulira were revealed.

Tim Simmons · 14th June 2006, 01:45 PM

Very interesting. When I take a look at my sticks it takes some time as I always end up having to handle each one in turn.

VANDOO · 14th June 2006, 04:28 PM

IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER IN YOUR PICTURES THAN THOSE ON EBAY, NICE CLUB. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD OLD TRIBAL THROWING OR STRIKING CLUB. IT MIGHT BE FROM THE AREA OF THE COPPER MINES OR MIGHT HAVE BEEN CARRIED IN FROM FAR OFF BY PEOPLE COMING LOOKING FOR WORK, SO I WOULD NOT LIMIT IT TO TRIBES IN THE IMEDIATE AREA. IT LOOKS TO HAVE A NICE PATINA I WONDER ABOUT THE SIGNIFICENCE OF THE SPOTS.

11th June 2006, 12:28 AM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Knobkerrie or Not? Hi All This auction just ended. What is it? My first impression was that it is African probably from the Congo the circle like depressions remind me of Chokwe designs on my axe. http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-1920s-AF...QQcmdZViewItem Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 11th June 2006 at 02:58 AM.

14th June 2006, 04:55 AM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi All The club arrived today. It's pretty heavy and solid made of dense tropical wood. Let me know what you think? Lew Attached Images

11th June 2006, 05:56 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It is a " two for the price of one" implement from Sears: " head basher and potato masher" Mother's day sale....

11th June 2006, 07:57 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	I agree with you Lew, I feel sure it is not a knobkerrie or South African. You know I like sticks. Once you get one you cant stop. A bit like crisps or chips as you call them, wrong chips go with ----

11th June 2006, 08:08 PM	#4
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Hi Lew,I think it is a Tsjokwé club! Looks like the one I listed with the nails.

14th June 2006, 08:13 AM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Its a beauty, love the polka dots. Simple and elegant, I bet it is very nice to fondle .

14th June 2006, 01:41 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim Yes the club has wonderful balance and it comes with povidence. It was was owned by Raymond Brooks a copper miner from Rhodesia. Mufulira is situated in the Copperbelt of Zambia, and it is the largest underground copper mine in Africa. The Copperbelt is the most concentrated copper-producing area in the world, although fifty years ago it was wild and trackless. Now in an area thirty miles wide and seventy miles long there are eight producing mines, namely Mufulira, Rokana, Chingola, Bwana Mkubwa, Chambishi, Chibuluma, Konkola and Luanshya. Mufulira's history began in June 1925 when two prospectors named Moir and Bell were sent by Mr. Raymond Brooks, who was then in charge of all the prospecting for two major companies, to work up the west side of the Kafue River to the Congo Border and then come back down it again along the other bank. They found nothing on the way up but when coming back down they camped by a stream called the Mufulira, and there they found some peat moss stained with malachite. They sent some of this moss to Mr. Brooks and a short time later they discovered an outcrop, which also showed meager copper-carbonate stain. A sample of this was also sent to Brook, but unfortunately it did not amount to very much. Intact it was not until five years later in 1928 that this outcrop was more thoroughly investigated by geologists and the vast riches of Mufulira were revealed.

14th June 2006, 01:45 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Very interesting. When I take a look at my sticks it takes some time as I always end up having to handle each one in turn.

14th June 2006, 04:28 PM	#9
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER IN YOUR PICTURES THAN THOSE ON EBAY, NICE CLUB. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD OLD TRIBAL THROWING OR STRIKING CLUB. IT MIGHT BE FROM THE AREA OF THE COPPER MINES OR MIGHT HAVE BEEN CARRIED IN FROM FAR OFF BY PEOPLE COMING LOOKING FOR WORK, SO I WOULD NOT LIMIT IT TO TRIBES IN THE IMEDIATE AREA. IT LOOKS TO HAVE A NICE PATINA I WONDER ABOUT THE SIGNIFICENCE OF THE SPOTS.