MORO BARUNG

tanaruz · 1st August 2020, 03:01 PM

Hi friends,

Sharing a barung collection from my father's. This was purchased around 2 years ago from the family of a balikbayan from the US. What attracted me is the silver braids on the handle. My first impression is that this barung's pommel was missing (am I correct to say this?). Could there have been a pommel on this piece? what possible design could it have been?

because of the silver handle and the braids...could this be a middle to upper-class type?

Thanks for your info and keep safe always.

Yves

Note: the rattan weaves are, in my opinion, a new addition to either hold the scabbard pieces together or for safely reasons.

Ian · 1st August 2020, 03:30 PM

Hello Yves.

Thank you for showing this beautiful Sulu barung. I believe this one is indeed a datu quality piece. The extensive use of silver on the hilt, with braided silver rings (budbud) overlying the silver punto, is an indicator of a high quality piece intended for a wealthy individual. You are correct that the pommel is missing. The peg protruding from the end of the hilt would have been used to secure the pommel, possibly an elaborate junggayan one made of precious wood or ivory.

Some years ago I had a barung with a similar, silver-covered, hilt missing its pommel and I have seen at least three other examples also missing their pommels. It seems that their owners may have fallen on hard financial times and removed the valuable pommels for sale. Filipino friends have told me this happens occasionally.

I had my barung restored to completeness by battara, who is also a Moderator on this Forum. He made a silver kakatua pommel that really brought the barung back to life and made its gin happy again.

Ian

tanaruz · 2nd August 2020, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Hello Yves.

Thank you for showing this beautiful Sulu barung. I believe this one is indeed a datu quality piece. The extensive use of silver on the hilt, with braided silver rings (budbud) overlying the silver punto, is an indicator of a high quality piece intended for a wealthy individual. You are correct that the pommel is missing. The peg protruding from the end of the hilt would have been used to secure the pommel, possibly an elaborate junggayan one made of precious wood or ivory.

Some years ago I had a barung with a similar, silver-covered, hilt missing its pommel and I have seen at least three other examples also missing their pommels. It seems that their owners may have fallen on hard financial times and removed the valuable pommels for sale. Filipino friends have told me this happens occasionally.

I had my barung restored to completeness by battara, who is also a Moderator on this Forum. He made a silver kakatua pommel that really brought the barung back to life and made its gin happy again.

Ian

Hello Sir,

Really appreciate the info. You do have pics of the restored pommel? Is it ok to contact battara (for some pics and suggestions)?

I have a sperm whale tooth in my collection. Bought from a picker who got it from Tawi Tawi during the 80s. It would be a possible option for a pommel.

Question: is sperm whale tooth considered 'ivory'?

Kindest regards,

Yves

Battara · 2nd August 2020, 04:23 AM

I was so happy to work o Ian's barong.

I agree your's probably had ivory, wood, or even horn on the pommel.

And yes, sperm whale tooth is a form of ivory, and it is not unheard of to use sperm whale tooth, sea cow tooth, hippo tooth, even clam shell. Lots of trade in the region.

And Yves you have PM.

Battara · 2nd August 2020, 04:35 AM

Here are the pictures of how I got it from Ian:

Battara · 2nd August 2020, 04:37 AM

So I replaced the missing brass inlay on the blade, made a horn spacer, and made the silver pommel (before there were any pictures of such a thing), and a scabbard for it:

Battara · 2nd August 2020, 04:38 AM

Here are some close ups:

tanaruz · 2nd August 2020, 04:54 AM

Hi Sir,

Gorgeous...the djinn must be very happy indeed Sir Ian. :-)

I will email you Sir Jose.

Thanks all,

Yves

Ian · 2nd August 2020, 07:04 AM

Jose,

Thanks for posting pics of that barung. I still have it and was having trouble finding the old pictures. Glad to see you kept them.

Ian.

kino · 2nd August 2020, 04:16 PM

Hi Ian, did your hilt have the tenon as opposed to a mortise like Tanaruz’ hilt?

Is the pommel solid silver or does it have a wood core?

It looks nice. Good job Jose!

Ian · 3rd August 2020, 01:39 AM

Hi Kino, IIRC there was a round hole in the end of the wooden hilt which may have been for attachment to a pommel. Jose may recall more clearly.

You would have to ask Jose what is underneath the silver kakatua he created.

Battara · 4th August 2020, 04:36 AM

I will make a note: many barongs and kris have missing pommels, it would appear.

tanaruz · 6th August 2020, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I was so happy to work o Ian's barong.

I agree your's probably had ivory, wood, or even horn on the pommel.

And yes, sperm whale tooth is a form of ivory, and it is not unheard of to use sperm whale tooth, sea cow tooth, hippo tooth, even clam shell. Lots of trade in the region.

And Yves you have PM.

Hello Sir Jose,

Thanks for this valuable info especially the sperm whale tooth being a form of ivory.

Sir you have a PM

Keep safe

Yves

1st August 2020, 03:01 PM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	MORO BARUNG Hi friends, Sharing a barung collection from my father's. This was purchased around 2 years ago from the family of a balikbayan from the US. What attracted me is the silver braids on the handle. My first impression is that this barung's pommel was missing (am I correct to say this?). Could there have been a pommel on this piece? what possible design could it have been? because of the silver handle and the braids...could this be a middle to upper-class type? Thanks for your info and keep safe always. Yves Note: the rattan weaves are, in my opinion, a new addition to either hold the scabbard pieces together or for safely reasons. Attached Images

2nd August 2020, 04:35 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Here are the pictures of how I got it from Ian: Attached Images

2nd August 2020, 04:37 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	So I replaced the missing brass inlay on the blade, made a horn spacer, and made the silver pommel (before there were any pictures of such a thing), and a scabbard for it: Attached Images

2nd August 2020, 04:38 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Here are some close ups: Attached Images

2nd August 2020, 04:54 AM	#8
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	MORO BARUNG Hi Sir, Gorgeous...the djinn must be very happy indeed Sir Ian. :-) I will email you Sir Jose. Thanks all, Yves

1st August 2020, 03:30 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hello Yves. Thank you for showing this beautiful Sulu barung. I believe this one is indeed a datu quality piece. The extensive use of silver on the hilt, with braided silver rings (budbud) overlying the silver punto, is an indicator of a high quality piece intended for a wealthy individual. You are correct that the pommel is missing. The peg protruding from the end of the hilt would have been used to secure the pommel, possibly an elaborate junggayan one made of precious wood or ivory. Some years ago I had a barung with a similar, silver-covered, hilt missing its pommel and I have seen at least three other examples also missing their pommels. It seems that their owners may have fallen on hard financial times and removed the valuable pommels for sale. Filipino friends have told me this happens occasionally. I had my barung restored to completeness by battara, who is also a Moderator on this Forum. He made a silver kakatua pommel that really brought the barung back to life and made its gin happy again. Ian

2nd August 2020, 04:23 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	I was so happy to work o Ian's barong. I agree your's probably had ivory, wood, or even horn on the pommel. And yes, sperm whale tooth is a form of ivory, and it is not unheard of to use sperm whale tooth, sea cow tooth, hippo tooth, even clam shell. Lots of trade in the region. And Yves you have PM.

2nd August 2020, 07:04 AM	#9
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Jose, Thanks for posting pics of that barung. I still have it and was having trouble finding the old pictures. Glad to see you kept them. Ian.

2nd August 2020, 04:16 PM	#10
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Hi Ian, did your hilt have the tenon as opposed to a mortise like Tanaruz’ hilt? Is the pommel solid silver or does it have a wood core? It looks nice. Good job Jose!

3rd August 2020, 01:39 AM	#11
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hi Kino, IIRC there was a round hole in the end of the wooden hilt which may have been for attachment to a pommel. Jose may recall more clearly. You would have to ask Jose what is underneath the silver kakatua he created.

4th August 2020, 04:36 AM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	I will make a note: many barongs and kris have missing pommels, it would appear.