French Sword Blade for comment

bvieira · 30th December 2018, 05:47 PM

Hello,

I bought this sword, or better this blade because all the rest of the sword is not original! It was sold has a hunting XIX sword but i'am sure this is a wrong information, the blade was not for hunting and it is of very good quality, very well balanced, has 2 engravings in french with (nobility) symbols as the pictures shows.

I think the blade is from a french sword of first half of the XVIII century, used by somebody of the nobility, i would like to restore this sword so any opinion for the style of the parts i should use in the restoration will be welcome!

Thanks

Best Regards,

BV

CSinTX · 31st December 2018, 12:32 AM

This is another member with a blade similar to yours, if I remember correctly. I'll send him a note to take a look.

I think your blade has also been shortened /reprofiled some.

M ELEY · 31st December 2018, 10:44 PM

Interesting piece. How long is the blade? Of course, refitted, but the wood has a nice patina and the grip has an interesting ribbed pattern.

CSinTX · 1st January 2019, 06:52 PM

My apologies for speaking too soon. The other sword had recently been sold. That blade is on a 17th C Campaign sword. Exactly like yours except longer and "Roy" is spelled "Roi".

Here were their thoughts on these blades.- "Its the blade of what the French called a forte épée the type first turned up on German swords around 1550.
This one is indeed first half of the 17th century and shortened, these are very rare.
With this inscription it were used by guard regiments of the French king, could be Royal Guards, could also be musketair du roi , Royal dragoons etc."

bvieira · 2nd January 2019, 09:34 AM

Hello,

Thank you all for your opinion that seems similar to mine.

The blade is 65 cm and it was shortned for sure,the wood parts are at least from XIX century (somebody adapted the sword for hunting), the engravings are very important they show special symbols like the liz flower!

I would like to restore this sword any pictures of original swords similar to this one ?

Regards,

BV

bvieira · 2nd January 2019, 11:14 AM

i think i found a very possible original sword with similar blade, it is labed as royal dragons forte epee cavalerie sword...

30th December 2018, 05:47 PM	#1
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	French Sword Blade for comment Hello, I bought this sword, or better this blade because all the rest of the sword is not original! It was sold has a hunting XIX sword but i'am sure this is a wrong information, the blade was not for hunting and it is of very good quality, very well balanced, has 2 engravings in french with (nobility) symbols as the pictures shows. I think the blade is from a french sword of first half of the XVIII century, used by somebody of the nobility, i would like to restore this sword so any opinion for the style of the parts i should use in the restoration will be welcome! Thanks Best Regards, BV Attached Images

2nd January 2019, 11:14 AM	#6
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	i think i found a very possible original sword with similar blade, it is labed as royal dragons forte epee cavalerie sword... Attached Images

31st December 2018, 12:32 AM	#2
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	This is another member with a blade similar to yours, if I remember correctly. I'll send him a note to take a look. I think your blade has also been shortened /reprofiled some.

31st December 2018, 10:44 PM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,092	Interesting piece. How long is the blade? Of course, refitted, but the wood has a nice patina and the grip has an interesting ribbed pattern.

1st January 2019, 06:52 PM	#4
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	My apologies for speaking too soon. The other sword had recently been sold. That blade is on a 17th C Campaign sword. Exactly like yours except longer and "Roy" is spelled "Roi". Here were their thoughts on these blades.- "Its the blade of what the French called a forte épée the type first turned up on German swords around 1550. This one is indeed first half of the 17th century and shortened, these are very rare. With this inscription it were used by guard regiments of the French king, could be Royal Guards, could also be musketair du roi , Royal dragoons etc."

2nd January 2019, 09:34 AM	#5
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello, Thank you all for your opinion that seems similar to mine. The blade is 65 cm and it was shortned for sure,the wood parts are at least from XIX century (somebody adapted the sword for hunting), the engravings are very important they show special symbols like the liz flower! I would like to restore this sword any pictures of original swords similar to this one ? Regards, BV