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Old 12th February 2016, 01:59 AM   #1
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Default An Indian dagger by any name

How would you classify this piece?

This what Artzi said:
"The Yali is a Hindu mythological creature which is believed to be very powerful and thus its image was used in sword and daggers handles. This one is from South India, 7 1/2 inches re-curving blade with a brass handle with a Yali head pommel. Total length 10 1/2 inches. Good condition."

The handle is very small. It is only comfortable for me to hold in my whole hand, ignoring the knuckle guard.
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Old 12th February 2016, 05:23 AM   #2
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How would you classify this piece?

This what Artzi said:
"The Yali is a Hindu mythological creature which is believed to be very powerful and thus its image was used in sword and daggers handles. This one is from South India, 7 1/2 inches re-curving blade with a brass handle with a Yali head pommel. Total length 10 1/2 inches. Good condition."

The handle is very small. It is only comfortable for me to hold in my whole hand, ignoring the knuckle guard.

Hi, Marcus.

Congratulations! Excellent dagger.
I would call this a dagger - Bichwa from South India.
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Old 12th February 2016, 08:19 AM   #3
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Hi, Marcus.

Congratulations! Excellent dagger.
I would call this a dagger - Bichwa from South India.
Very similar to the one in the Met.

Indian (Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu) Bichuwa dagger, 17th century, steel, brass, silver, H. 10 5/8 in. (27 cm); H. of blade 7 1/2 in. (19.1 cm); W. 2 11/16 in. (6.8 cm); Wt. 8.1 oz. (229.6 g) Bequest of George C. Stone, 1935, Met Museum.
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Old 12th February 2016, 09:07 AM   #4
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Old 12th February 2016, 12:07 PM   #5
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HERE IS MY SOUTH INDIAN YALI DAGGER FROM HYDERABAD OR MYSORE

L 35 cm.

A DAGGER WITH A BRONZE HANDLE IN THE FORM OF AN ANIMAL HEAD AND A STEEL BLADE WITH SILVER INLAID DECORATION OF ANIMALS IN A FOREST. India, Hyderabad, Length 35 cm. Matching sheath. Minor damage.

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Old 12th February 2016, 05:11 PM   #6
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Great. Thanks, especial for the reference to the example in the Met. I note that the dimensions are nearly identical. Do they suggest it might have been intended for a woman?
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Old 13th February 2016, 05:11 AM   #7
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South Indians are as a rule smaller than the Northerners. Perhaps,it fit their hands quite comfortably.
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