South-east Asian dagger needs a brainstorm

Radu Transylvanicus · 19th January 2006, 09:48 PM

Something I acquired last year. I know for sure it comes from the Philippines but I want better than that. Here is what I think it could be:
A Moro (Tausug?) punal / punal de keris known local as gunong. Can it be older than mid 20th century?
The ulu-ulu pistol hilt is made of a stained hardwood. The salungan or sheath is made of red wood (likely narra wood) and chased brass rings. A long punto or ferule of brass rings makes the transition to the long solid blade simply adorned with one crude grove. Back top mount ring has a chassed and pierced work loop-clip (how is that clip named?) pretty fancy craftsmanship.
Seems rather small in my hands, at least the grip, blade is fairly well sized. I hope the picture sizes is OK...let me know if you need more details...

Lew · 19th January 2006, 10:12 PM

Hi Radu

Its a nice punal/gunong but it seems to be mid 20th century to me. The hilt looks like carabao horn to me and not wood?

Lew

Radu Transylvanicus · 19th January 2006, 10:29 PM

Carabao it is, guilty of not paying attention

Battara · 20th January 2006, 02:46 AM

Yeah, I'm of the mid 20c crowd. On the money on horn and Tausug gunong. I would also add that it has narra wood scabbard with brass and white metal fittings, althought the ferrule could be silver, but more likely white metal. I believe these turned up after the ban on swords after the last of the Moro wars in 1915.

VANDOO · 21st January 2006, 04:48 AM

I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS ANSWERS AND ALSO LIKE THE BIG DIAMONDBACK RATTLE SNAKE SKIN BACKDROP

Radu Transylvanicus · 23rd January 2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS ANSWERS AND ALSO LIKE THE BIG DIAMONDBACK RATTLE SNAKE SKIN BACKDROP

Complimets of a reckless Italian 12 gauge in a partridge huntin'.

19th January 2006, 09:48 PM	#1
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	South-east Asian dagger needs a brainstorm Something I acquired last year. I know for sure it comes from the Philippines but I want better than that. Here is what I think it could be: A Moro (Tausug?) punal / punal de keris known local as gunong. Can it be older than mid 20th century? The ulu-ulu pistol hilt is made of a stained hardwood. The salungan or sheath is made of red wood (likely narra wood) and chased brass rings. A long punto or ferule of brass rings makes the transition to the long solid blade simply adorned with one crude grove. Back top mount ring has a chassed and pierced work loop-clip (how is that clip named?) pretty fancy craftsmanship. Seems rather small in my hands, at least the grip, blade is fairly well sized. I hope the picture sizes is OK...let me know if you need more details...

19th January 2006, 10:12 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Radu Its a nice punal/gunong but it seems to be mid 20th century to me. The hilt looks like carabao horn to me and not wood? Lew

19th January 2006, 10:29 PM	#3
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	Carabao it is, guilty of not paying attention

20th January 2006, 02:46 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Yeah, I'm of the mid 20c crowd. On the money on horn and Tausug gunong. I would also add that it has narra wood scabbard with brass and white metal fittings, althought the ferrule could be silver, but more likely white metal. I believe these turned up after the ban on swords after the last of the Moro wars in 1915.

21st January 2006, 04:48 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS ANSWERS AND ALSO LIKE THE BIG DIAMONDBACK RATTLE SNAKE SKIN BACKDROP