28th November 2015, 12:45 AM | #31 | |
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Indo-Persian weapons. https://www.google.com/search?q=Indo...w=1918&bih=995 Indo-Persian armor. https://www.google.com/search?q=indo...w=1918&bih=995 |
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28th November 2015, 03:41 AM | #32 | |
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What I have tried to point out is that when a question is asked as to ORIGIN of a piece, what is actually being asked is "Where does this piece COME FROM?" It may be Ottoman, and if it is, what particular country within what was the Ottoman Empire does it come from? I am not looking for a particular town as has been highlighted by some, but the likely COUNTRY of origin. Some of the above replies show that some Members are quite happy to have only a vague idea of where their particular pieces originate. I prefer (where possible), to narrow things down to a particular country or region. Each to their own I guess...... Stu |
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28th November 2015, 04:12 AM | #33 | |
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Here is an example, this war hammer is in my opinion "Ottoman". How can I verify that, what reference will tell me with any certainty that this was manufactured in the Ottoman empire and what country in the Ottoman Empire it originated from. Right now I would probably describe it as "Indo-Persian" (possibly Ottoman) |
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28th November 2015, 04:52 AM | #34 | |
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29th November 2015, 08:47 AM | #35 |
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I couldn't stop help myself...
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1st December 2015, 07:03 PM | #37 |
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Very interesting discussion. I think that it is fair to categorize weapons and accoutrements produced in the Ottoman empire as "Ottoman". I think there is an Ottoman esthetic that resonates on those items manufactured during this period. However, I think that the regional decorative variances is IMHO what makes the study of these weapons so fascinating. I believe that there is space for a scholarly, yet collector-friendly book that can connect the designs and patterns found in weapons with those of other regionally produced folk art and motifs of the same period. Some countries in the Balkans have done an amazing job in cataloging regional variants of folk costumes, embroidery and jewelry design. These alone may serve as a starting point of comparison.
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