Omani matchlock

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Thank you very very much all!!
In fact, I discovered, that in fact, the handle is covered with a thick brown leather with a nice patina. It was not the wood!!
So I won't touch anything.
I will spend my time on my new Abu fila or Omani matchlock...

Hi Kubur,
Lets see some pics of your the matchlock please. Here is one I recently acquired.
Stu

[David]

Just a suggestion…if you all want to talk about matchlocks you might want to start a new thread since the title of this one would lead people to expect swords, not guns…

[Robert]

As David has pointed out, to help keep threads from becoming sidetracked it would be appreciated if from now on anyone who would like to discuss an item not related to the main topic of any thread please do so by starting a new thread dedicated to that item. It will also help to simplify a search for specific information in the future. Thank you.

Best,
Robert

P.S. Great looking matchlock Stu. Any chance of getting a few close-ups of it and are there any engraving or other markings?

[Kubur]

Hi Stu,

Mine is very similar...
I'm traveling now to East Africa.
When I will come back, you will have the photos.
One question, what about the muzzle of barrel.
In tulip shape?
Do you have some little silver dots on the barrel and deep maker stamps
who look like mihrab shape??

Kind regards,
Kubur

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Robert

As David has pointed out, to help keep threads from becoming sidetracked it would be appreciated if from now on anyone who would like to discuss an item not related to the main topic of any thread please do so by starting a new thread dedicated to that item. It will also help to simplify a search for specific information in the future. Thank you.

Best,
Robert

P.S. Great looking matchlock Stu. Any chance of getting a few close-ups of it and are there any engraving or other markings?

Hi Robert, Good point from you and David about changing the subject. I should have thought,as it is one of the things which has annoyed me in the past.
OK here are some more pics. No visible marks at all. The brass cylinders are for the match. The solid one to extinguish it, and the vented one to hold it safely while lit. The holder is not attached to the stock but is held in place by the match cord wound around the stock. This seems to be the usual method.
The barrel is fluted as shown and is "swamped" to an approx. 15mm muzzle
The only piece missing is the pan cover which fits on the peg which can be seen in the pics. Easy to make one I guess as it is just a flat piece of metal.
Overall length is 64" 1625mm
Barrel 46" 1170mm
Bore 15mm approx. Smooth, not rifled.
Hope this is of interest.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Stu,

Mine is very similar...
I'm traveling now to East Africa.
When I will come back, you will have the photos.
One question, what about the muzzle of barrel.
In tulip shape?
Do you have some little silver dots on the barrel and deep maker stamps
who look like mihrab shape??

Kind regards,
Kubur

I think that we must have both posted at the same time as I think my added pics might answer part of your question. Not sure what you mean by "tulip shaped" muzzle?? No little silver dots and no maker stamp although there is a deep recession where the stamp is usually found.
Stu

[Kubur]

If we follow the book of Robert Elgood
you have the oldest kind of barrel from the 17th c.
like me

[Kubur]

Better late than never!!!!!!!!!

Sorry i didnt take close up, but at least you can see the gun with his brothers.

Best wishes
K.

[BANDOOK]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Better late than never!!!!!!!!!

Sorry i didnt take close up, but at least you can see the gun with his brothers.

Best wishes
K.

PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME THE ORIGIN OF THE 4 GUNS YOU HAVE SHOWN,ONE LOOKS LIKE A TURKISH GUN,REGARDS

[trenchwarfare]

Over the years, I've noticed a shield, or house shaped indentation, on the breach area of guns form the Near, and Middle East. Even as far as India. The indentation is usually about 3/8" tall, 1/4" wide, and quite deep. Sometimes there are two, or more. Were these once filled with a gold "amulet", or "talisman" that has since been robbed? There never seems to be any design inside. Just curious.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by trenchwarfare

Over the years, I've noticed a shield, or house shaped indentation, on the breach area of guns form the Near, and Middle East. Even as far as India. The indentation is usually about 3/8" tall, 1/4" wide, and quite deep. Sometimes there are two, or more. Were these once filled with a gold "amulet", or "talisman" that has since been robbed? There never seems to be any design inside. Just curious.

Good question!! The shape you mention resembles those on Italian barrels, and some barrels seen on ME guns are Italian. It is quite possible that you are right about the insert being removed, but I personally do not have any direct knowledge of this. Perhaps Ibrahiim might respond here with some "local" knowledge.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by BANDOOK

PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME THE ORIGIN OF THE 4 GUNS YOU HAVE SHOWN,ONE LOOKS LIKE A TURKISH GUN,REGARDS

I agree, some info would be nice, the bottom one appears to be Ottoman, is it rifled?

[kahnjar1]

OK for what it is worth this is what I think to be the origins of the 4 guns, after surfing thru my library.
Top to Bottom
Albanian Rasak Musket
Omani
Algerian
Turkish
Feel free to correct me.
Stu

[Kubur]

Stu you are absolutely correct nothing to say
the last one are just my dirty feet
The Turkish ottoman has a nice barrel rifled inside