Bugis Keris dagger

Marcus · 12th August 2013, 04:47 AM

This was identified as a Bugis Keris dagger. Comments?

Marcus · 12th August 2013, 04:48 AM

Comments welcome.

Jean · 12th August 2013, 09:44 AM

Yes, interesting kris from East Sumatra or Malaysia?

Regards

Sajen · 12th August 2013, 10:24 AM

My best guess would be that it is a Riau keris or maybe a Terengganu keris, would like to read the comments from our Malay members and Gustav.
The other question is if the singha (?) carving at the gandik is original or a later addition. I also would like to see the hilt from the front.

Jean · 12th August 2013, 10:11 PM

I agree with Sajen. The blade is not Bugis, does it fit well into the sheath slot? (original matching or not?).
Best regards

kai · 12th August 2013, 10:35 PM

Hello Marcus,

Judging from the fittings, this is a northern Malay keris - possibly Terengganu, might be from further up North as well. How well does the blade fit the scabbard??

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The other question is if the singha (?) carving at the gandik is original or a later addition.

I'm convinced that this is a later alteration, indeed. Tip of the blade is also redone. IMHO an old, genuine blade got ruined - sorry for the bad news.

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I also would like to see the hilt from the front.

I'd second Detlef's request. The hilt seems to have some age but I can't place it yet. (IMHO probably N Malay, too...)

BTW, try carefully to remove that glue between hilt and selut.

Regards,
Kai

Marcus · 12th August 2013, 11:45 PM

Hopefully the angles requested.

Sajen · 13th August 2013, 12:00 AM

Blade could be originally to the scabbard, difficult to say without handling. But now I think to see that the pendokok is to big for the hilt. Hilt byself seems to be Terengganu.

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Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	Bugis Keris dagger This was identified as a Bugis Keris dagger. Comments? Attached Images

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Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	More photos Comments welcome. Attached Images

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Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	more pictures Hopefully the angles requested. Attached Images

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Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Yes, interesting kris from East Sumatra or Malaysia? Regards

12th August 2013, 10:24 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	My best guess would be that it is a Riau keris or maybe a Terengganu keris, would like to read the comments from our Malay members and Gustav. The other question is if the singha (?) carving at the gandik is original or a later addition. I also would like to see the hilt from the front.

12th August 2013, 10:11 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I agree with Sajen. The blade is not Bugis, does it fit well into the sheath slot? (original matching or not?). Best regards

13th August 2013, 12:00 AM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	Blade could be originally to the scabbard, difficult to say without handling. But now I think to see that the pendokok is to big for the hilt. Hilt byself seems to be Terengganu.