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Today was my lucky day in personal life.
Daughter turned 8, family and friends visited and we had a wonderfull day. ![]() Unfortunately I missed out on an auction of a imho banjarmasin keris. Posting pictures here for comments and sharing. Best regards, Willem |
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a marriage made in heaven
![]() the sheath is of Cirebon and Solo influence. The hilt is stylized from the Bugis rekko hilt but has strong Kalimantan flavor. The blade... well we need a clearer shot. |
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Unfortunately these are all the pictures I have, and I was not the lucky buyer.
Better pictures of the blade would have been interesting indeed. |
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it would be nice to see the whole keris indeed. since there is no certain tipe of kalimantan keris, we can only see the different fron the tipe of jejeran. its common to see bugis, java,sumatera keris mounth with kalimantan jejeran and warangka. |
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The same type of Wrongko is depicted in van Duuren's bibliography, the last colour plate, also atributed to Banjarmasin. On this Wrongko besides the exagerated Lambe the most distinctive feature is the straight Loto. Solonese Gayaman Wrongkos generally doesn't have a Loto, except one type on which it appears, yet curved.
It says nothing of course. The makers in Indonesia are using Keris books for their creations for some time already. It could be just the light in the pictures, yet the right side of Wrongko (when held correctly) looks a bit like reworked, like sanded down, the surface has slightly other, lighter colour then the left side. There is a possibility the Lambe and Loto are worked out on a common Solonese Gayaman. The hilt looks like Peninsular Pipit Teleng hilt, yet without being Teleng. |
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Check out this Wrangka, on a keris that I missed out on 2 years ago.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=banjarmasin |
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it seems you misses all the good stuff... ![]() I would love to add this last one with horn wrangka to my own collection. Do you know where it went? ![]() Maurice |
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Never heard or saw anything of that keris. Here the 2 wrangka's together. Notice the similarities in form. |
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![]() Yes indeed I see the similarities in form! Both nice pieces. A pity they slipped through your hands Willem... ![]() Maurice |
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I've had contact with the new owner of the Bandjermasin keris and he emailed me some images of the kris, which I was allowed to post in the forum.
Maurice |
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Thanks Maurice, Nice to have the full picture of the blade. I have enlarged and turned them to get a better view of the blade. |
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When I see a blade like this I always wonder what it looked like new .
How does the gonjo become seperated like that, from the wilah ? Couldn't have been that way when made, right ? ![]() |
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Rick, last year I had the opportunity to handle a lot of very old keris that are located in European museums, keris that entered Europe before 1700 in most cases and in a few cases before 1600.
If I had not known the provenance of these keris my opinion would have been that I was handling keris from no earlier than about 1850, probably much later. What happens with keris that have been located in their native environment for an extended period of time is that repeated cycles of cleaning followed by lengthy neglect results in a large part of the body of the blade being eroded. This erosion also occurs between the blade base and the gonjo, and thus we get a gap, even a light knock can push an old gonjo out of place. In blades that have been restored in Central Jawa over the last 40 or so years, many m'ranggi have used epoxy resin, or a mix of epoxy resin and iron filings to fill the gap between the blade and the gonjo, thus providing a degree of protection to this area. |
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Hullo everybody!
![]() Just referring back to the original post, to me (in local terminology): Blade: form: Sampana 9Lok damascene pattern: Lidi Sabatang Sheath: form: Jukungan Best, |
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Is this style of sheath common or at least well-known in West Java? Best regards |
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Just to make sure that there is no misunderstanding: by 'local terminology', I mean local to Banjarmasin/South Kalimantan. The above form was one of the three typical for this area and quite common. There are still many around, you just have to know where to look. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the current blade-makers' kerises came supplied them. Among the Sunda, it is, how can I put it, 'well-known esoterically'(?). ![]() Best, |
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Thank you and sorry for my misinterpretation ![]() Best regards Jean |
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Yesterday I have purchased the keris from a friendly fellow collector.
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Just for sharing I would like to add a picture of a superb banjar keris that was recently sold by an antique dealer.
best example I have ever seen. |
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