Christian Filipino Bolo

VVV · 29th December 2011, 01:05 PM

Who can share some more info on this sword?
And what does "RLY" stand for?

Michael

Spunjer · 29th December 2011, 01:49 PM

RLY= internet slang for really?, which in turn was popularized by seth myers and amy poehler on saturday night live.. sorry, can't help, lol...
ok, the RLY, i would assume would be the initials of the owner. as for the phrase on the other side, you have prolly encountered this in your trips to the islands, michael.. in the tagalog region, every now and then, you'd hear a local say, "aysus maryosep!" you may or may not see that person make a sign of the cross, but that term is used when the person is surprised. aysus maryosep is a corruption of "hesus maria jose", or Jesus, Mary and Joseph.. it's a like an old oraciones muttered by older people to ward off evil spirits, and later became a common expression. "quien como dios" whould be "who like god", so again, i'm assuming that's the whole term that was used back then, and was later abbreviated to the shorter aysus maryosep. with that clue, and since this term is only used in tagalog region, i would say you have a tagalog sword. nice one!

(added)
btw, i just now realized the pommel's motif, which is that of a horse. it could be associated with batangas. just a guess...

VVV · 29th December 2011, 02:12 PM

Thanks Ron,

I am almost only in the Visayas when over (so Grand Tuhon doesn't need to be away from his family when he is back home from the US) so I haven't noticed the "aysus maryosep!" yet. "Quien como dios" is the same as Mi-cha-el in Hebrew so that's one reason it's mine now

Michael

Spunjer · 29th December 2011, 02:18 PM

hah! that's a nice coincidence, lol. good one!

Sajen · 29th December 2011, 04:14 PM

Hello Michael,

can't add something but have to say that you everytime show us breathtaking swords!

Regards,

Detlef

Lew · 29th December 2011, 04:19 PM

I found a modern version of this old bolo they do seem quite similar? The older one is real nice quality congrats!

VVV · 29th December 2011, 04:34 PM

Thanks D & L,

Lew, what's the name of the modern version?

Michael

Lew · 29th December 2011, 04:38 PM

Itak which = bolo in Tagalog

VVV · 30th December 2011, 12:34 PM

Thanks,

I was hoping for something less generic.

Michael

Spunjer · 30th December 2011, 01:52 PM

ahh, the modern version.. if you're referring specifically to the picture lew posted, it's called sundang pantasya, or literally translated, fantasy sword

carlos · 30th December 2011, 05:57 PM

Great sword!! congratulations, I envy you

, is very beatiful bolo!!
Best regards
carlos

ibeam · 31st December 2011, 05:25 AM

Mike,
Really nice sword you got there....

Can u post some close up of the handle, like to see more details of the nicely carved carabao horn handle and silver ferrule.

thnx

VVV · 31st December 2011, 09:06 AM

Thanks,

Here are some close ups.

Michael

carlos · 31st December 2011, 01:27 PM

I just fall in love!! the handle is fantastic

Thanks for post, is a good present to my eyes!!
best regards
carlos

migueldiaz · 4th January 2012, 04:02 AM

The only thing I can add is that Katipunan generals were the ones who used the flower and vines design, to signify their rank. Thus it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that they also used the same motif in their personal weapons and accessories.

Alternatively, if the former owner of the sword was not a Katipunan general, then in all likelihoo he was a civilian VIP.

In other words, it's a very cool sword in any case!

VVV · 4th January 2012, 04:56 PM

Thanks for the added rank system info, very interesting.

Michael

Dimasalang · 4th January 2012, 08:23 PM

This is why I love this place. Rarely get to see these gems anywhere else. Awesome piece! Thanks for sharing!

29th December 2011, 01:05 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Christian Filipino Bolo Who can share some more info on this sword? And what does "RLY" stand for? Michael Attached Images

29th December 2011, 01:49 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	RLY= internet slang for really?, which in turn was popularized by seth myers and amy poehler on saturday night live.. sorry, can't help, lol... ok, the RLY, i would assume would be the initials of the owner. as for the phrase on the other side, you have prolly encountered this in your trips to the islands, michael.. in the tagalog region, every now and then, you'd hear a local say, "aysus maryosep!" you may or may not see that person make a sign of the cross, but that term is used when the person is surprised. aysus maryosep is a corruption of "hesus maria jose", or Jesus, Mary and Joseph.. it's a like an old oraciones muttered by older people to ward off evil spirits, and later became a common expression. "quien como dios" whould be "who like god", so again, i'm assuming that's the whole term that was used back then, and was later abbreviated to the shorter aysus maryosep. with that clue, and since this term is only used in tagalog region, i would say you have a tagalog sword. nice one! (added) btw, i just now realized the pommel's motif, which is that of a horse. it could be associated with batangas. just a guess... Last edited by Spunjer; 29th December 2011 at 02:13 PM.

29th December 2011, 04:19 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I found a modern version of this old bolo they do seem quite similar? The older one is real nice quality congrats! Attached Images

31st December 2011, 09:06 AM	#13
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks, Here are some close ups. Michael Attached Images

31st December 2011, 01:27 PM	#14
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Ahhh!! I just fall in love!! the handle is fantastic Thanks for post, is a good present to my eyes!! best regards carlos

29th December 2011, 02:12 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Ron, I am almost only in the Visayas when over (so Grand Tuhon doesn't need to be away from his family when he is back home from the US) so I haven't noticed the "aysus maryosep!" yet. "Quien como dios" is the same as Mi-cha-el in Hebrew so that's one reason it's mine now Michael

29th December 2011, 02:18 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	hah! that's a nice coincidence, lol. good one!

29th December 2011, 04:14 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Michael, can't add something but have to say that you everytime show us breathtaking swords! Regards, Detlef

29th December 2011, 04:34 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks D & L, Lew, what's the name of the modern version? Michael

29th December 2011, 04:38 PM	#8
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Itak which = bolo in Tagalog

30th December 2011, 12:34 PM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks, I was hoping for something less generic. Michael

30th December 2011, 01:52 PM	#10
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ahh, the modern version.. if you're referring specifically to the picture lew posted, it's called sundang pantasya, or literally translated, fantasy sword

30th December 2011, 05:57 PM	#11
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Great sword!! congratulations, I envy you , is very beatiful bolo!! Best regards carlos

31st December 2011, 05:25 AM	#12
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Mike, Really nice sword you got there.... Can u post some close up of the handle, like to see more details of the nicely carved carabao horn handle and silver ferrule. thnx

4th January 2012, 04:02 AM	#15
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	The only thing I can add is that Katipunan generals were the ones who used the flower and vines design, to signify their rank. Thus it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that they also used the same motif in their personal weapons and accessories. Alternatively, if the former owner of the sword was not a Katipunan general, then in all likelihoo he was a civilian VIP. In other words, it's a very cool sword in any case! Attached Images

4th January 2012, 04:56 PM	#16
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for the added rank system info, very interesting. Michael

4th January 2012, 08:23 PM	#17
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	This is why I love this place. Rarely get to see these gems anywhere else. Awesome piece! Thanks for sharing!