Whistlinbill's Collection #2: Jambiya

Lee · 17th December 2011, 06:52 PM

We shall observe the Arab daggers in this thread...

Battara · 17th December 2011, 07:05 PM

I like jambiya #1 - looks like gilded silver and horn.

spiral · 17th December 2011, 07:30 PM

Great pieces, I love number 1,2 & 5 also!

I think the current live rust needs arresting though, before 3 & 5 deterate even further & end up like the relic blade on 4.

Spiral

Atlantia · 17th December 2011, 11:20 PM

Nice collection Bill.

I agree with Spiral though. That rust on these wafer thin blades is very worrying.

Best
Gene

whistlinbill · 18th December 2011, 01:49 AM

Thanks, gentlemen!
These have been sitting in my basement for a good long while--I just don't have enough wall space to put everything on it. (Built a place with a lot of large windows--plenty of light, but not much place for the arms on the wall.)
The gold looking one is gold. I bought it WAY before gold went through the roof!
Bill

kahnjar1 · 18th December 2011, 02:30 AM

I agree about the rust....kill it quick!! #1, 2 & 5 are either Saudi or Yemeni Jambiya and 3 & 4 probably Omani. Nice pieces and thanks for showing.
Stu

whistlinbill · 21st December 2011, 05:27 AM

Gentlemen, thanks a bunch for your help! Your expertise is most impressive to an old coot like me, who collected with the one book that was available
at the time--Stone's. I very much appreciate all the research you have put in on the knives, and your kind comments.
Thanks,
Bill

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 21st December 2011, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whistlinbill

Gentlemen, thanks a bunch for your help! Your expertise is most impressive to an old coot like me, who collected with the one book that was available
at the time--Stone's. I very much appreciate all the research you have put in on the knives, and your kind comments.
Thanks,
Bill

CHANGED MY MIND SLIGHTLY !!!
Salaams whistlinbill, Ok you have a good collection there... Gold? If its the number one I would say gold wash...over silver. Your No 1 is a Salalah Khanjar. No 2 is Habaabi from Saudia close to the Oman border. 3 and 4 are a puzzle; Made in Oman perhaps but 3 is decorated in the UAE style below the belt and 4 is odd as it has no belt section(broke off?) but could be a mixture worn say in the southern fringes and we go for Salalah ... 5 is Saudia Jambia WE THINK!
Cleaned up and derusted they will look great. Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Lee · 21st December 2011, 02:25 PM

and the next photo...

Gavin Nugent · 21st December 2011, 02:41 PM

I love number 7 and it looks like very fine Rhino horn too...very nice

Gav

Atlantia · 21st December 2011, 03:03 PM

Another very nice group there Bill. Wide range of syles and ages.
At the very least get some penetrating oil on the rusted patches like the ones on #7 to try and stop the decay progressing.

Are these more from the cellar?
Can't wait to see what you DO display!

Best
Gene

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 21st December 2011, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

and the next photo...

Salaams,
6. Saudia
7. Habaabi Saudia
8 Muscat
9 Habaabi Saudia
10 Yemen and Salalah.

Ibrahiim

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 2nd February 2012, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams,
6. Saudia
7. Habaabi Saudia
8 Muscat
9 Habaabi Saudia
10 Yemen and Salalah.

Ibrahiim

Salaams all ~ bump.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Lee · 2nd February 2012, 04:07 PM

Hint duly noted, here are three more:

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 2nd February 2012, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

Hint duly noted, here are three more:

Salaams and thanks Lee...First is an Omani Khanjar from the Sharqiyya (not Sur) and favoured in the central area and south (Khaiyma and Salalah). I like the hilt which is hundreds of silver pins hammered into the horn grip that could well be Z'raff(Rhino).

Second is a Yemeni Jambiyya.

Third is a Yemeni Jambiyya( very basic dagger )

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 9th February 2012, 07:24 PM

Salaams Lee ~ Anymore? Bump !

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

whistlinbill · 19th February 2012, 04:56 PM

Ibrahiim, Gav and Gene, Thank you so much for your expertise (and kindness re the awful rust problem.) I live in the Southeastern part of the US, and have 53 inches of rainfall per year. I built a basement that is as waterproof as possible--sprayed-on rubber on the outside of the wall, and waterproof paint inside.
And a raised wooden floor with dehumidifiers going constantly. But, somehow the knives still managed to rust!
I reckon it's back to the drawing board....
Thanks,
Bill

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 19th February 2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whistlinbill

Ibrahiim, Gav and Gene, Thank you so much for your expertise (and kindness re the awful rust problem.) I live in the Southeastern part of the US, and have 53 inches of rainfall per year. I built a basement that is as waterproof as possible--sprayed-on rubber on the outside of the wall, and waterproof paint inside.
And a raised wooden floor with dehumidifiers going constantly. But, somehow the knives still managed to rust!
I reckon it's back to the drawing board....
Thanks,
Bill

Salaams Whistlinbill ..Thank you for the great threads you have contributed through Lee. Yours is a veritable museum!
We can go for 2 or 3 years with no rain at all in some areas!
With a collection as vast as yours you do really well ~dont worry about the rust just give the blades a greasing with wax ... trouble is these scabbards are often wooden inside and it is there that the moisture can build up. Once a month should be ok for a quick blade waxing ... You have some great items there !! Thank you for sharing Sir, and its great to hear from you...

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

David R · 19th February 2012, 10:34 PM

Hi there, wonderfull collection of Jambiya, thankyou for sharing. We have a humidity problem here in the UK as well, and I have sadly had a couple of nice blades rust in the scabbards. In the end the best solution is sometimes to store them out of the scabbard. Wax, I have some reservations about. I have used petrolium jelly (vas*line) in the past, diluted in white spirit to thin it. The spirit evaporates leaving a thin even layer of fine grease. Currently I use "watch oil", which is a modified olive oil, and so does not damage wooden scabbards like mineral oil does.

whistlinbill · 20th February 2012, 02:18 AM

Ibrahiim and Dave, thank you! I'll give that a play to see if I can head off the "red demon" before it gets a chance to get hold.
Thanks,
Bill

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th February 2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R

Hi there, wonderfull collection of Jambiya, thankyou for sharing. We have a humidity problem here in the UK as well, and I have sadly had a couple of nice blades rust in the scabbards. In the end the best solution is sometimes to store them out of the scabbard. Wax, I have some reservations about. I have used petrolium jelly (vas*line) in the past, diluted in white spirit to thin it. The spirit evaporates leaving a thin even layer of fine grease. Currently I use "watch oil", which is a modified olive oil, and so does not damage wooden scabbards like mineral oil does.

Salaams Bill and David R .. Agreed . I use sewing machine oil which is fine. Taking the weapons out of the scabbard is a great idea.. solves the bother straightaway..

Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

21st December 2011, 02:25 PM	#9
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 914	and the next photo... Attached Images

2nd February 2012, 04:07 PM	#14
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 914	Hint duly noted, here are three more: Attached Images

19th February 2012, 10:34 PM	#19
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	Damp! Hi there, wonderfull collection of Jambiya, thankyou for sharing. We have a humidity problem here in the UK as well, and I have sadly had a couple of nice blades rust in the scabbards. In the end the best solution is sometimes to store them out of the scabbard. Wax, I have some reservations about. I have used petrolium jelly (vas*line) in the past, diluted in white spirit to thin it. The spirit evaporates leaving a thin even layer of fine grease. Currently I use "watch oil", which is a modified olive oil, and so does not damage wooden scabbards like mineral oil does.

17th December 2011, 06:52 PM	#1
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 914	Whistlinbill's Collection #2: Jambiya We shall observe the Arab daggers in this thread... Attached Images

17th December 2011, 07:05 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	I like jambiya #1 - looks like gilded silver and horn.

17th December 2011, 07:30 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Great pieces, I love number 1,2 & 5 also! I think the current live rust needs arresting though, before 3 & 5 deterate even further & end up like the relic blade on 4. Spiral

17th December 2011, 11:20 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Nice collection Bill. I agree with Spiral though. That rust on these wafer thin blades is very worrying. Best Gene

18th December 2011, 01:49 AM	#5
whistlinbill Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24	Thanks, gentlemen! These have been sitting in my basement for a good long while--I just don't have enough wall space to put everything on it. (Built a place with a lot of large windows--plenty of light, but not much place for the arms on the wall.) The gold looking one is gold. I bought it WAY before gold went through the roof! Bill

18th December 2011, 02:30 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	I agree about the rust....kill it quick!! #1, 2 & 5 are either Saudi or Yemeni Jambiya and 3 & 4 probably Omani. Nice pieces and thanks for showing. Stu

21st December 2011, 05:27 AM	#7
whistlinbill Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24	Gentlemen, thanks a bunch for your help! Your expertise is most impressive to an old coot like me, who collected with the one book that was available at the time--Stone's. I very much appreciate all the research you have put in on the knives, and your kind comments. Thanks, Bill

21st December 2011, 02:41 PM	#10
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I love number 7 and it looks like very fine Rhino horn too...very nice Gav

21st December 2011, 03:03 PM	#11
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Another very nice group there Bill. Wide range of syles and ages. At the very least get some penetrating oil on the rusted patches like the ones on #7 to try and stop the decay progressing. Are these more from the cellar? Can't wait to see what you DO display! Best Gene

9th February 2012, 07:24 PM	#16
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams Lee ~ Anymore? Bump ! Regards Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

19th February 2012, 04:56 PM	#17
whistlinbill Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24	Ibrahiim, Gav and Gene, Thank you so much for your expertise (and kindness re the awful rust problem.) I live in the Southeastern part of the US, and have 53 inches of rainfall per year. I built a basement that is as waterproof as possible--sprayed-on rubber on the outside of the wall, and waterproof paint inside. And a raised wooden floor with dehumidifiers going constantly. But, somehow the knives still managed to rust! I reckon it's back to the drawing board.... Thanks, Bill

20th February 2012, 02:18 AM	#20
whistlinbill Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 24	Ibrahiim and Dave, thank you! I'll give that a play to see if I can head off the "red demon" before it gets a chance to get hold. Thanks, Bill