Yes, you heard me right... a Gerponese Frankendagger

laEspadaAncha · 29th May 2010, 07:38 PM

I'm guessing the Japanese component quasi-qualifies this to list in the ethnographic forum...

I am hoping someone here can shed light on this auction that recently ended on the 'bay. In particular, I am curious as to whether anyone might be able to explain why what I see as a Gerponese Frankendagger fetched a hammer price well over $500.

$565 for what looks to me to be a one-off comprised of an SA blade married to a Meiji period colonial Japanese hilt. So why the stratospheric price? Is it a particularly rare RZM code? Am I missing something here?

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And does this mean there's an SA-hilted Japanese colonial sword floating out there somewhere?

Rick · 29th May 2010, 08:08 PM

Did you read the Q. and A. session ?

Hilarious !!

Battara · 29th May 2010, 09:23 PM

Maybe it's me but unless the RZM number has some significance, it is not that rare a blade and belongs to an SA (as you mentioned earlier) and the hilt a WWII Japanese (or a 1930's) hilt.

Who would do such a thing to these pieces anyway?

Rick · 29th May 2010, 11:06 PM

Nece$$ity is the Mother of Invention .

David · 29th May 2010, 11:25 PM

Don't you guys think JOHNNY knows what he talking about....????

kahnjar1 · 29th May 2010, 11:40 PM

In the terms of the period it represents, would AXIS DAGGER fit?

A. G. Maisey · 30th May 2010, 01:45 AM

I know zilch about this sort of cutting tool, but I can recognise a real good used car salesman when I see him in action.

Battara · 30th May 2010, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

In the terms of the period it represents, would AXIS DAGGER fit?

I guess if it had an Italian scabbard, then it would be an AXIS DAGGER.

Bryan.H · 30th May 2010, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

Gerponese Frankendagger

I just saw the photo's

Someone please shoot the man who created that monstrosity!
Shoot him, cut out his tongue and shoot his tongue! That's like using a backyard welder to fuse a edo period tanto blade with a lord of the rings dagger hilt, or something equally blasphemous!

kahnjar1 · 30th May 2010, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

I guess if it had an Italian scabbard, then it would be an AXIS DAGGER.

..........it probably has!!

laEspadaAncha · 30th May 2010, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

In the terms of the period it represents, would AXIS DAGGER fit?

I have to believe that had to be Dr. Frankendagger's motive... it's aliiiiiiive!

As much as I love a good dose of cross-cultural reuse on an antique edged weapon - a European bladed katar, for example - this bastard blade just, just... I don't know. Creative, sure... but I guess I didn't know SA daggers were so expendable?

Maybe this is the only way you the seller was able to get around the We're-denying-Nazi-Germany-ever-existed policy on feepay-epray?

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I have to go spot weld a Yemeni jambiya blade onto a Victorian basketweave dirk hilt...

kahnjar1 · 30th May 2010, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

I have to believe that had to be Dr. Frankendagger's motive... it's aliiiiiiive!

As much as I love a good dose of cross-cultural reuse on an antique edged weapon - a European bladed katar, for example - this bastard blade just, just... I don't know. Creative, sure... but I guess I didn't know SA daggers were so expendable?

Maybe this is the only way you the seller was able to get around the We're-denying-Nazi-Germany-ever-existed policy on feepay-epray?

Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I have to go spot weld a Yemeni jambiya blade onto a Victorian basketweave dirk hilt...

Don't you dare!!...but if you can't resist the urge I will take the scabbard...I need one!

Battara · 30th May 2010, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan.H

I just saw the photo's

Someone please shoot the man who created that monstrosity!
Shoot him, cut out his tongue and shoot his tongue! That's like using a backyard welder to fuse a edo period tanto blade with a lord of the rings dagger hilt, or something equally blasphemous!

AMEN!

laEspadaAncha · 30th May 2010, 08:02 AM

I don't know guys... I think we might have pre-judged the "creator" of this unholy marriage. I heard a noise back in the spare bedroom... went to investigate, turned on the light, and what did I find?

Rick · 30th May 2010, 04:27 PM

LMAO !!

Good one !

katana · 30th May 2010, 06:43 PM

Battara · 30th May 2010, 08:06 PM

WW!

kronckew · 30th May 2010, 08:47 PM

now you see why it is always recommended that your blades wear a sheath.

Tim Simmons · 30th May 2010, 08:49 PM

Brilliant

market forces?

Rick · 30th May 2010, 09:43 PM

He's laughing all the way to the Bank .

What was Barnum's quote ?

I wonder who won it .

29th May 2010, 07:38 PM	#1
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Yes, you heard me right... a Gerponese Frankendagger I'm guessing the Japanese component quasi-qualifies this to list in the ethnographic forum... I am hoping someone here can shed light on this auction that recently ended on the 'bay. In particular, I am curious as to whether anyone might be able to explain why what I see as a Gerponese Frankendagger fetched a hammer price well over $500. $565 for what looks to me to be a one-off comprised of an SA blade married to a Meiji period colonial Japanese hilt. So why the stratospheric price? Is it a particularly rare RZM code? Am I missing something here? Click here And does this mean there's an SA-hilted Japanese colonial sword floating out there somewhere?

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laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Pig and Elephant DNA Just Don't Splice I don't know guys... I think we might have pre-judged the "creator" of this unholy marriage. I heard a noise back in the spare bedroom... went to investigate, turned on the light, and what did I find? Last edited by laEspadaAncha; 30th May 2010 at 09:43 AM.

29th May 2010, 08:08 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Did you read the Q. and A. session ? Hilarious !!

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Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Maybe it's me but unless the RZM number has some significance, it is not that rare a blade and belongs to an SA (as you mentioned earlier) and the hilt a WWII Japanese (or a 1930's) hilt. Who would do such a thing to these pieces anyway?

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Nece$$ity is the Mother of Invention .

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	LMAO !! Good one !

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	He's laughing all the way to the Bank . What was Barnum's quote ? I wonder who won it .