Big Saudi Jambiya For Comment

Lew · 21st March 2010, 11:52 PM

Here is my other purchase at the show. This brass and Iron hilted jambiya with a 14" blade.

kahnjar1 · 22nd March 2010, 01:00 AM

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm drooling!! Interesting hilt style. What is the hilt metal....looks to be brass or copper? If it ever feels the need for a new home..................

Regards Stu

Lew · 22nd March 2010, 01:52 AM

Stu

Heavy patina on the brass the back is iron the blade is well forged and really sharp.

Dom · 22nd March 2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Here is my other purchase at the show. This brass and Iron hilted jambiya with a 14" blade.

Hi Louieblades
beautiful "Dharia" dagger know as "Malsa",
the blade is of the "beyd" type
my point of view is
- hilt and the metal of scabbard might be, is copper, should be silvered at origine

dagger contemporary, worn by "Bani Shahr", "Bani Malik", and "Bani Qarn" tribes (KSA)

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Dom

kahnjar1 · 22nd March 2010, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Stu

Heavy patina on the brass the back is iron the blade is well forged and really sharp.

Thanks Lew,.......as I said , a nice piece. Unfortunately we see VERY little of this sort of thing in New Zealand, almost never at auction, and about the same at our gun shows.
Stu

ariel · 22nd March 2010, 05:43 AM

A question to Dom:
You mention name Malsa and blade type Beyd.
In the Saudi book on Islamic swords and armour, they mention several names for this type of Jambiya (Muqafalla, Mufarragha, Dharia, Rashaq,Malsa) and several blade types (Muayyar,Beyd, Nafihi,Shbeyl) without any further explanations.
How did they differ from each other?
Can you elaborate?

Lew · 22nd March 2010, 11:53 PM

origine

dagger contemporary, worn by "Bani Shahr", "Bani Malik", and "Bani Qarn" tribes (KSA)

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Dom[/QUOTE]

Hi Dom

If by contemporary do you mean recent? I would say this dagger is from the 1920-30s?

Dom · 23rd March 2010, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Hi Dom
If by contemporary do you mean recent? I would say this dagger is from the 1920-30s?

YES ... because myself ... I'm recent

I considere me "included" inside contemporain generation

I'm just younger for 10 years than that dagger type

... do not tell me that I am old,
otherwise I should admit that every body hidden to me ... too many things ...
LOL

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Dom

Dom · 23rd March 2010, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

A question to Dom:
You mention name Malsa and blade type Beyd.
In the Saudi book on Islamic swords and armour, they mention several names for this type of Jambiya (Muqafalla, Mufarragha, Dharia, Rashaq,Malsa) and several blade types (Muayyar,Beyd, Nafihi,Shbeyl) without any further explanations.
How did they differ from each other?
Can you elaborate?

the same book than you

then, the pic's ... a good magnifying glass

and studies of similarities
- hilt shape
- design in the middle of the blade

I got the chance to have them in hands many time during my 6 years of residence in KSA
where there are much more expensive on suk, than in USA or Europe auctions

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Dom

Lew · 26th March 2010, 07:31 PM

Just wanted to state a correction on the blade length which is 17.5 -18 inches long not 14".

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22nd March 2010, 01:00 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	NICE!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm drooling!! Interesting hilt style. What is the hilt metal....looks to be brass or copper? If it ever feels the need for a new home.................. Regards Stu

22nd March 2010, 01:52 AM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Stu Heavy patina on the brass the back is iron the blade is well forged and really sharp.

22nd March 2010, 05:43 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	A question to Dom: You mention name Malsa and blade type Beyd. In the Saudi book on Islamic swords and armour, they mention several names for this type of Jambiya (Muqafalla, Mufarragha, Dharia, Rashaq,Malsa) and several blade types (Muayyar,Beyd, Nafihi,Shbeyl) without any further explanations. How did they differ from each other? Can you elaborate?

22nd March 2010, 11:53 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	origine dagger contemporary, worn by "Bani Shahr", "Bani Malik", and "Bani Qarn" tribes (KSA) à + Dom[/QUOTE] Hi Dom If by contemporary do you mean recent? I would say this dagger is from the 1920-30s?

26th March 2010, 07:31 PM	#10
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Just wanted to state a correction on the blade length which is 17.5 -18 inches long not 14".