Indonesian saber

josh stout · 1st April 2008, 05:06 PM

A seller of swords from Indonesia who is just starting out in the world of eBay contacted me looking for information on this sword. In my opinion it is not particularly old or valuable, but I thought it would be worth asking some questions about. I bought a similar saber with nice fullers and a clipped tip on the North coast of East Java in the early nineties, and this is the first example of something that comes close that I have seen since. Is this style recognizable to anyone? The seller comes from Northern Sumatra (Medan). It looks like the kind of thing a modern pirate might use (for when the AK is out of bullets) , and comes from an area where that is possible.
Josh

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...pai/Banner.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...ai/Blade_2.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...i/Handle_2.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...i/Handle_3.jpg

spiral · 1st April 2008, 05:24 PM

Josh, It is an old Dutch cutless or Klewang that there military used in Indonesia.

Spiral

josh stout · 1st April 2008, 05:53 PM

Thanks, I thought it was perhaps not that old given the guard looks like it was made from a sheet of rolled steel cut into shape.
Josh

kronckew · 1st April 2008, 07:48 PM

these have been discussed at length before in This Thread and linkies in it lead to earlier threads on them. the one shown above has been ridden hard and put down wet. probably still more valuable than you think.

Bill M · 1st April 2008, 08:34 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=hembrug

josh stout · 9th April 2008, 07:35 PM

Well the one I posted is on eBay now with a bad description that will probably have it end up selling cheaply. If anyone is looking for such things and can't find it let me know and I can send you a link.

The seller wanted me to buy it but I am not so interested. The blade is stamped "MILSCO". Does that narrow it down to a particular time?

Thank you for the links everyone, I had no idea these had such a history.

Josh

kronckew · 9th April 2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh stout

... The blade is stamped "MILSCO". Does that narrow it down to a particular time?
...
Josh

from one of my posts:
The US company Milsco got a contract for a large number of klewangs. Before they could all be delivered, the Dutch East Indies were also overrun. Without a paying customer, the US military took a lot of these swords into service as M1941. They did serve in the US army and marine corps, but perhaps not as an official item.

After WW2, many of the unissued Milso klewangs were bought by the Dutch government and used in the "policing actions" in Indonesia in the late 40's. Others found their way to the collectors market in new condition.

josh stout · 10th April 2008, 05:28 PM

Thanks, I remember the post now, but I there was allot of information in the posts, so it slipped my mind until you reminded me.
Josh

josh stout · 10th April 2008, 06:10 PM

The sword is now on its way to HongKong with all the other good stuff.
Josh

1st April 2008, 05:06 PM	#1
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Indonesian saber A seller of swords from Indonesia who is just starting out in the world of eBay contacted me looking for information on this sword. In my opinion it is not particularly old or valuable, but I thought it would be worth asking some questions about. I bought a similar saber with nice fullers and a clipped tip on the North coast of East Java in the early nineties, and this is the first example of something that comes close that I have seen since. Is this style recognizable to anyone? The seller comes from Northern Sumatra (Medan). It looks like the kind of thing a modern pirate might use (for when the AK is out of bullets) , and comes from an area where that is possible. Josh http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...pai/Banner.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...ai/Blade_2.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...i/Handle_2.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...i/Handle_3.jpg

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1st April 2008, 05:24 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Josh, It is an old Dutch cutless or Klewang that there military used in Indonesia. Spiral

1st April 2008, 05:53 PM	#3
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Thanks, I thought it was perhaps not that old given the guard looks like it was made from a sheet of rolled steel cut into shape. Josh

1st April 2008, 07:48 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	these have been discussed at length before in This Thread and linkies in it lead to earlier threads on them. the one shown above has been ridden hard and put down wet. probably still more valuable than you think.

1st April 2008, 08:34 PM	#5
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=hembrug

9th April 2008, 07:35 PM	#6
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Well the one I posted is on eBay now with a bad description that will probably have it end up selling cheaply. If anyone is looking for such things and can't find it let me know and I can send you a link. The seller wanted me to buy it but I am not so interested. The blade is stamped "MILSCO". Does that narrow it down to a particular time? Thank you for the links everyone, I had no idea these had such a history. Josh

10th April 2008, 05:28 PM	#8
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Thanks, I remember the post now, but I there was allot of information in the posts, so it slipped my mind until you reminded me. Josh

10th April 2008, 06:10 PM	#9
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	The sword is now on its way to HongKong with all the other good stuff. Josh