caucasian dagger..1900

dzhoka · 5th September 2006, 11:09 PM

I gambled on the ebay .. it looks like caucasian dagger to me perhaps made at the end of 1800 by turkish master but confused...
Summarised opinions could bring a solid idea...thank you all in advance Johhni
paid about 100 usd ..winner or not ?

Rivkin · 8th September 2006, 08:31 PM

Yep, I would say it comes from Turkey or southern Caucasus, and the date is I would say more towards 1900.

Here is what interesting - the mark is nearly the same as one can see on this sword:
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...threadid=70932

I strongly suspect that "saudi arabyan sayf" is by far something else, but is it the same mark/same maker/trade blade ?

ariel · 8th September 2006, 09:02 PM

Good eye, Rivkin!

Elgood wrote that toward the end of the 19th century Arabia imported quite a lot of Daghestani Shashka blades. That may be the common denominator.

How is Texas, by the way? You should get yourself a six-gallon hat and a truck: otherwise some might take you for a Yankee

Rivkin · 9th September 2006, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

How is Texas, by the way? You should get yourself a six-gallon hat and a truck: otherwise some might take you for a Yankee

Well, did not notice too much of a difference - sitting in a dark room and writing proposals in Chicago, or sitting in a dark room in College Station and writing the same proposals, let them be damned but bring me money. On the bad side the state school is somewhat literally dirty and poor, on the good side the faculty is not all distinguished, but nearly dead, the weather is ok (it is getting undeservingly bad rap), the food is good, and there are no arab restaurants in which I used to waste my ailing liver.

I am still looking for a hat, but you can just as well pass for a local by learning to say "no habla ingles, senior"

.

P.S. I often think I should have grabbed this industry job.

dzhoka · 9th September 2006, 08:34 AM

any specific meening of this three stars....??
will nerrow this question..._ Since what ,aproxsimatelly. period this marks appiared on the serface of blades ( trading blades, ).?? In Turkey , Dagestan.Kabardeen, Chechens ets, My suspition is that Iran was involved in this markings too.
Who likelly first decided to put this marks ?

Northern reguion of California , Napa Valley wines attract a lot of professionals by exclusive smell, aroma,colour and specific tast.It 's only 35 minuts drive from here ..we do it often.
wee doo...
cheers

Rivkin · 12th September 2006, 07:43 AM

Well, if it would be just one "thingie" this would be a "sun-symbol", so you should have looked for sun-worshippers, like mjalhista tribe from chechnja (who actually did use such symbols). Now three of them together - have not seen this mark before, sorry.

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dzhoka Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BayArea,CA Posts: 5	caucasian dagger..1900 I gambled on the ebay .. it looks like caucasian dagger to me perhaps made at the end of 1800 by turkish master but confused... Summarised opinions could bring a solid idea...thank you all in advance Johhni paid about 100 usd ..winner or not ? Attached Images Last edited by dzhoka; 6th September 2006 at 03:10 AM.

9th September 2006, 08:34 AM	#5
dzhoka Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BayArea,CA Posts: 5	suspended meening any specific meening of this three stars....?? will nerrow this question..._ Since what ,aproxsimatelly. period this marks appiared on the serface of blades ( trading blades, ).?? In Turkey , Dagestan.Kabardeen, Chechens ets, My suspition is that Iran was involved in this markings too. Who likelly first decided to put this marks ? Northern reguion of California , Napa Valley wines attract a lot of professionals by exclusive smell, aroma,colour and specific tast.It 's only 35 minuts drive from here ..we do it often. wee doo... cheers

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8th September 2006, 08:31 PM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Yep, I would say it comes from Turkey or southern Caucasus, and the date is I would say more towards 1900. Here is what interesting - the mark is nearly the same as one can see on this sword: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...threadid=70932 I strongly suspect that "saudi arabyan sayf" is by far something else, but is it the same mark/same maker/trade blade ?

8th September 2006, 09:02 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Good eye, Rivkin! Elgood wrote that toward the end of the 19th century Arabia imported quite a lot of Daghestani Shashka blades. That may be the common denominator. How is Texas, by the way? You should get yourself a six-gallon hat and a truck: otherwise some might take you for a Yankee

12th September 2006, 07:43 AM	#6
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Well, if it would be just one "thingie" this would be a "sun-symbol", so you should have looked for sun-worshippers, like mjalhista tribe from chechnja (who actually did use such symbols). Now three of them together - have not seen this mark before, sorry.